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11th February 2010, 11:24
(This post was last modified: 17th February 2010 22:19 by tackattack.)
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another abuse of God, if he existed
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"Meanwhile, Iranian security officers have put out a steady drumbeat of warnings, announcing they will not tolerate opposition protesters during state-sponsored celebrations Thursday, the 31st anniversary of the foundation of the Islamic Republic of Iran." Is it just me or does it seem like they're afraid of their own shadow? "There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
"A lot of people are unwilling to acknowledge anything that contradicts their worldview. So telling them that it's false doesn't necessarily slow them down. That's how urban legends get started for the most case. Like the woman who supposedly put her poodle in the microwave to dry it off. And it exploded." David Mikkelson (snopes) |
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11th February 2010, 11:41
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RE: another abuse of God
Yes they are - recall that the Islamic revolution was predicated on the very same grounds of abuse and terror that is currently the environment in Iran. They are terrified because if it happened once, it can happen again. They also know that they butchered as many of those connected to the previous regime (the prior government to the Islamic Republic of Iran) - so now it is a matter of life and death, in their minds.
It is terror, plain and simple, exercised on a populace fed up with oppression. This is not god abuse - it is people abuse! It is they who are being harmed! "You can't turn away from death simply because you're afraid of what might happen without you. That's not enough! You're not embracing life. You're fleeing death! So you're caught in between. Unable to go forward or backward. Your friends need what you can be when you are no longer afraid. When you know who you are and why you are and what you want. When you are no longer looking for reasons to live but can simply be." -- Lorien, Babylon 5
"Its easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?" -- Lorien |
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11th February 2010, 12:05
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RE: another abuse of God
No it's people abusing people using God as an excuse, hence the abuse of his name.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
"A lot of people are unwilling to acknowledge anything that contradicts their worldview. So telling them that it's false doesn't necessarily slow them down. That's how urban legends get started for the most case. Like the woman who supposedly put her poodle in the microwave to dry it off. And it exploded." David Mikkelson (snopes) |
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11th February 2010, 14:19
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RE: another abuse of God
I saw nothing about "God" in that article nor in the video. The only mention of 'God' was the Allah Akbar (whatever) being yelled in defiance of the government crackdown.
So where was God used as an 'excuse'? Either-or this seems to be a matter of Iranian internal national security. Age-old cry of the oppressor, I know, but it is what it is. If the leadership of another country deems it nessasary for internal security purposes to limit or shut down outside communications then who are we to bitch about it? I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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11th February 2010, 15:59
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RE: another abuse of God
No they were assinating mohareb, or enemies of God, namely the journalists, with more on the way.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
"A lot of people are unwilling to acknowledge anything that contradicts their worldview. So telling them that it's false doesn't necessarily slow them down. That's how urban legends get started for the most case. Like the woman who supposedly put her poodle in the microwave to dry it off. And it exploded." David Mikkelson (snopes) |
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11th February 2010, 17:21
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RE: another abuse of God
(11th February 2010 12:05)tackattack Wrote: No it's people abusing people using God as an excuse, hence the abuse of his name. It is appalling that the first thing you jump on is a usual enemies of God statements made by theocratic governments, not the actual abuses happening to real people in real time. "You can't turn away from death simply because you're afraid of what might happen without you. That's not enough! You're not embracing life. You're fleeing death! So you're caught in between. Unable to go forward or backward. Your friends need what you can be when you are no longer afraid. When you know who you are and why you are and what you want. When you are no longer looking for reasons to live but can simply be." -- Lorien, Babylon 5
"Its easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?" -- Lorien |
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11th February 2010, 20:39
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RE: another abuse of God
(11th February 2010 17:21)Synackaon Wrote: It is appalling that the first thing you jump on is a usual enemies of God statements made by theocratic governments, not the actual abuses happening to real people in real time. We could say the same about endless citing of religious abuse where the actual abused people are of of secondary concern. Christianity is perfect, Christians are not - C. S. Lewis
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11th February 2010, 22:38
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RE: another abuse of God
I am truly ocncerned for those being afflicted, however far out of my control. I was merely pointing out that tragedy is spread out evenly among people, and far too much of it is attributed to God.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
"A lot of people are unwilling to acknowledge anything that contradicts their worldview. So telling them that it's false doesn't necessarily slow them down. That's how urban legends get started for the most case. Like the woman who supposedly put her poodle in the microwave to dry it off. And it exploded." David Mikkelson (snopes) |
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12th February 2010, 02:33
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RE: another abuse of God
(11th February 2010 20:39)fr0d0 Wrote:(11th February 2010 17:21)Synackaon Wrote: It is appalling that the first thing you jump on is a usual enemies of God statements made by theocratic governments, not the actual abuses happening to real people in real time. Key difference - when I cite religious abuse, it is the citation of abuse onto people. What tackattack cited was directed in the vein that God was being abused. Nice try. "You can't turn away from death simply because you're afraid of what might happen without you. That's not enough! You're not embracing life. You're fleeing death! So you're caught in between. Unable to go forward or backward. Your friends need what you can be when you are no longer afraid. When you know who you are and why you are and what you want. When you are no longer looking for reasons to live but can simply be." -- Lorien, Babylon 5
"Its easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?" -- Lorien |
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12th February 2010, 03:13
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RE: another abuse of God
realistically, very little I can do for the actual people involved, just because I'm not still pining over not being able to help them and doing what I can to take care of the other abuses present by posting them here doesn't mean I''m any less compassionate than you.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
"A lot of people are unwilling to acknowledge anything that contradicts their worldview. So telling them that it's false doesn't necessarily slow them down. That's how urban legends get started for the most case. Like the woman who supposedly put her poodle in the microwave to dry it off. And it exploded." David Mikkelson (snopes) |
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