Evidence for atheist claims

[Ben Davis]

Yep, the thread still lives.  And nope, the clown who started it has not become any more interesting than at the start.  Kudos to Ben Davis for patiently talking him down after each bout of peevishness and tantrum.  (Why do we have no Saint Award at years end?)

Rep! Rep! Rep! Rep! Rep!

[Thumpalumpacus]

What can I say, I do recommend to the people of this forum to read Patristics and to leave aside the bunch of prejudices you have. Christianity is not Bible alone, is not creationism, is not "Accept Jesus in your heart and you will get saved", these are missconceptions.

I'm sorry, I don't find your superstitions any more interesting than those held by Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, etc.

[Losty]

Is this a shit and run thread or is the op just ignoring me?

He's already responded to a lot of posts, so I don't think that is a fair inference. He almost certainly has a life.

It wasn't an inference. It was a question.

[drfuzzy]

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I must say I am a bit dissappointed. I am dissappointed because I have sensed a great unjustice in the behaviors of this forum's people and not only, of course. I do believe everybody is free to think and believe what they want to, but I know that 

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 you have done a great unjustice towards christianity, by asserting into it wrong theology, wrong concepts and wrong exegesis, basically creating a new christianity 

Just exactly HOW has an internet discussion forum damaging christianity?  A bunch of people who does not believe in the existence of any deity, chatting amongst themselves, has damaged christianity?  Wow, your imaginary friend really has no power at all, does he?  He needs someone like YOU to protect him.  Wow.  He is clearly lame, incompetent, and impotent.  And you wonder why we don't believe he exists.

 

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 molded to your criteria which you can deliberately attack because it fits the atheism you have.

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 Undoubtedly the atheism you have is a denial of the "god" of that christianity
No, shit for brains, we keep telling you . . . and telling you . . . (pull your smarmy egotistical head out of your ass and clean the wax out of your ears) . . . it's not just the god of christianity.  It's any god.  Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, Zoroaster, Mithras, Thor, Brahma, Shiva, - - we don't believe any of them exist.  Yahweh goes in the same list as Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Leprechauns.

 

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 that is denaturated and wholly new. What can I say,

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 I do recommend to the people of this forum to read Patristics
LOL.  No. If I ever WAS curious about what old Clement or Ignatius or Justin Martyr or Irenaeus thought about their imaginary god 1700 years ago, your behavior on this forum has insured that I never want to know.  The ignorance and disrespect might be contagious.

 

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 and to leave aside the bunch of prejudices you have. Christianity is not Bible alone, is not creationism, is not "Accept Jesus in your heart and you will get saved", these are missconceptions. These are modern creations and they are the fountain of atheism because of their absurdity. The real christianity stands silent in the history of the first centuries, in the writings of the Fathers, in hesychasm, in asceticism, in the Scriptures guided by Sacred Tradition and so on... I will always teach anybody that wants to learn about this (anyone that is interested can PM me) but I cannot convince you, you must convince yourselves if you want to and all that is recquired is will. This I have said to you in case you want to learn more. And the debates I have created rapidly degenerated, with only two or three persons that answered honestly and the rest just doing mockery and so on, I have to tell you that it is not pleasant and that you should not do that anymore, in my opinion, but again, it is up to you.

May God bless you all, through the intercession of the Most Blessed Theotokos and of all the saint's.

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Prove that god exists.  Prove why I should care about anything a crazy Jewish preacher ever said or did.  Prove that I should care about ANY version of christianity or any other religion.  Prove any bit of the shit that you have spewed all over this forum.  If you can't, 

[Michael Schubert]

If God did not create the earth, how is it that we have an earth here and we live in it? Also, I beg, provide evidence for your claims.

Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, according to Thermodynamics. So the universe is eternal. I'm not sure exactly how the earth formed. I think it was a big ball of fire at some point. 

According to Thermodynamics, it's impossible for an anthropomorphic puppet master to point his or her finger and a planet will poof out of thin space, fully-formed.

[Edwardo Piet]

He's ignoring everyone win a valid point.  Don't take it personally.  [emoji41]

He's replied to some of my posts, and I think I had some valid points in them.

You mean Wryetui the ignorant-fuck-face-shit-for-brains responded to your posts?

I'm so fucking jealous!

[RozKek]

I am starting this post because, so far, no atheist ever showed me evidence for their beliefs (or as you say, "lack of beliefs") and I am curious. I will play the person you believe I am, a "dumb redneck christian" and I will ask you things so you can answer them to me with evidence, of course. First question:

If God did not create the earth, how is it that we have an earth here and we live in it? Also, I beg, provide evidence for your claims.

I as an Atheist make no claims at all. I simply lack a belief for any god because the existence of god is the claim itself, therefore the one who claims god exists should provide evidence for the claims.

There are reasons, evidence etc as to how/why earth is here and we live in it. You seem to use the fine-tuning argument. How exactly is the universe fine-tuned for life? Life exists in one planet and doesn't exist in quintillions (many zeros) of others, not fine-tuned, is it? Also we live on this planet because the organisms that evolved adapated to the circumstances on this planet, the universe isn't fined tuned for us, we are "fined-tuned" for the universe. However, I won't provide you anything like that because it is completely irrelevant, because our lack of knowledge about how things work and why things are isn't evidence for god, nor does it point to god. If you do not agree with me show me how our lack of knowledge proves god's existence and why it proves specifically your god.

Also, don't use the bible as a credible source before you prove it credible first.

Before replying, read what I've said several times, do not ignore anything, and pay extra attention to the bolded text, thanks.

[abaris]

It wasn't an inference. It was a question.

Ignoring most of the posters, as it is. So don't feel too special simply by being ignored.

[The Valkyrie]

Yes, the thread is ALIVE!!!!

[robvalue]

He never even managed to tell me what "a god". It's kind of important. I can't have an opinion about it until you tell me what the hell you're even talking about.

No on can tell me what it is. Clearly theists don't spend a lot of time thinking about this.