Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Had a good sleep.

Still can't understand what the point of this could possibly be.

A joke maybe?

I hardly consider 250,000 deaths a year - and that's just in America - to be a joke.

Modern western medicine has increased life spans because it's really good at a few things:

- trauma care
- antibiotics
- certain vaccines

Other than that it's largely an industry that makes more money by keeping us sick, and it kills an awful lot of us.

Toxicology, microbiology, endocrinology, pharmacology, neuroscience, molecular biology, bio-chemistry, oncology, among many others.

Fields which were either non-existent or people throwing powders at people's faces hoping for divine intervention. People have had cancer for centuries, only in the past 30 to 40 years have we learned how to start treating it.

Or, people have had kidney failures for centuries, only recently have we discovered the broad range of scientific disciplines necessary to go about transplanting one.

The list goes on and on and on. ^_^

[robvalue]

But besides all that, what have the Romans ever done for us?

[brewer]

Delta? Have you self diagnosed delusions of grandeur? No? Not much of a diagnostician then.

[John V]

Are those "alternative approaches" not medicine then?

Depends on how you define medicine. For instance, would you consider fasting to fall under the umbrella of "medicine"?

[madog]

Are those "alternative approaches" not medicine then?

Depends on how you define medicine. For instance, would you consider fasting to fall under the umbrella of "medicine"?

Its your thread, you define it .... so you don't take any medicine?

[John V]

Its your thread, you define it

OK, then alternative approaches are medicine.

.... so you don't take any medicine?

Yes, I do, as you're letting me define it.

If you're referring to prescription drugs, no, I'm not currently taking any. Last time I did was a few years ago, when I took some antibiotics for what was likely a bacterial lung infection.

[FatAndFaithless]

..You still haven't defined medicine.

[Gemini]

Reposting article posted by Alex K on the first page which the OP still hasn't responding too: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/are...n-the-u-s/

The TL;DR is that the claim "modern medicine is the third leading cause of death" is flat false. It's just another alarmist article predicated on lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[John V]

..You still haven't defined medicine.

How about, the practice dealing with the maintenance of health and the prevention, alleviation, or cure of disease. Seems like a good starting point at least.

[robvalue]

Here's a general hint, for everyone:

If you want to be taken seriously, post accurate information, properly represented, and make honest, clear arguments.