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August 5, 2015 at 4:34 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I have a 17-year-old son. Took him out today to teach him to drive a stick-shift, and he did pretty well.
My first car was a stick. The first time I drove it I did NOT do well lol.
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:36 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I have a 17-year-old son. Took him out today to teach him to drive a stick-shift, and he did pretty well.
My first car was a stick. The first time I drove it I did NOT do well lol.
So far I've only taught one child to drive stick. The first three lessons did not go well. Now she prefers our manual car to the automatic. Keep at it.
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm
I'm curious:
C_L, are you saying IVF is immoral because you think it's immoral on a personal level, or are you saying it's immoral because the church deems it to be, and you abide by their authority?
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:38 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm)Javaman Wrote: But yeah, I should be outraged at Pyrrho. 
Not saying you should be.
I, in fact, don't think anyone should be outraged by what anyone else considers immoral. People can think what they want.
But I do feel there is a double standard when you get upset at people for thinking IVF is immoral, but not upset at people for thinking having children is immoral and for actually looking down on people who have children.
Just didn't make much sense, that's all. But, to each their own. 
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Kev u stole my question!
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:39 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (August 5, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My first car was a stick. The first time I drove it I did NOT do well lol.
So far I've only taught one child to drive stick. The first three lessons did not go well. Now she prefers our manual car to the automatic. Keep at it.
I still drive a stick, but even though it used to be "cool" when I was younger, I am getting quite sick of it.
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:39 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:38 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Kev u stole my question!
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:40 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I'm curious:
C_L, are you saying IVF is immoral because you think it's immoral on a personal level, or are you saying it's immoral because the church deems it to be, and you abide by their authority?
Both.
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:41 pm
CL what exactly is immoral about IVF? Am I missing something?
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RE: atheism and children
August 5, 2015 at 4:42 pm
(August 5, 2015 at 4:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I'm curious:
C_L, are you saying IVF is immoral because you think it's immoral on a personal level, or are you saying it's immoral because the church deems it to be, and you abide by their authority?
Both.
Huh.
Well, I can safely say I don't get it, and disagree. Then again, I don't think there's anything more magical or proper about a penis shooting sperm into an egg and it happening with a needle in a lab.
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