(August 6, 2015 at 1:09 pm)robvalue Wrote:

(August 6, 2015 at 1:06 pm)Ace Wrote: No that is not what I said at all . . .

Some one asked how does gay hurt people? Anima gave example of family''s reaction to a gay relative. Then another said no, gays do not hurt and that is when I asked you the question. To which you acknowledged that one feelings does get hurt by a gay person. The example, them coming out to their family.

Hence, to say that gay's do not hurt is not correct, because they can and they do
That's all.

OK...

I would say the gay has not hurt anyone. The bigot has hurt themself through their own ridiculous hatred. All the gay has done is be honest about themselves.

There is certainly no intention to hurt, unlike murder and such to which homosexuality is somehow being compared by people who must be poes.

HAHAHAHA its ok, back tracking, . . I know you slipped the wrong word in. But I get what you "really mean" :-)

What's your relation to Anima by the way? You seem rather more than random internet buds.
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What you trying to say . . .

HAHAHA hell I can say the same thing with you and Redbeard The Pink, Jenny A, hell just about everyone here. It seem like you are all in one room, each with you lab tops, discussing the post among each other.
Interesting that there is always constant agreement among you?

We're just not in the fortunately small percentage of people who equate homosexuality to murder, Ace. Hope you can join us someday.

You two have been hanging out in the gay threads together, barely stepping outside to the rest of the forum, for a month or so now. I thought maybe you were related or something.

Of course all the atheists agree with me, I've got a fricking chainsaw on my arm.

(August 6, 2015 at 2:45 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: We're just not in the fortunately small percentage of people who equate homosexuality to murder, Ace. Hope you can join us someday.

Hmmmm very, very, very,very,very,tempting. And I would be with the majority. But then I can put on my "Straight Pride" t-shirt. . . . However, I am not one to really care about fashion. But I hate Techno! Hmmmm?

What is very bothersome to me is the constantly misinterpretation of statements, knowing that that is not the crux of the statement or the argument. Second, as stated before, this was a fake discussion as to what would be the social biological argument against homosexuality. But everyone, seems to want to forget that and condemn this guy for taking up the request to an argument and being true to logic and reason in the argument.
That is not right. Do not invite someone to argue on a given topic then condemn them for their idea of reason by not wanting to really "hear" the argument for what it is but call someone names

It would have been better to have never given the invite.

No, I respect Anima for his willingness to argue and to stick to the argument. Keeping true to the chain of rational thought, not altering it for personal appearance or pressure of others.

Anima I will accept any discussion/argument that you ever wish to have. And promise to keep all personal and bias ideas away and argue the argument.

(August 6, 2015 at 2:49 pm)robvalue Wrote: You two have been hanging out in the gay threads together, barely stepping outside to the rest of the forum, for a month or so now. I thought maybe you were related or something.

Of course all the atheists agree with me, I've got a fricking chainsaw on my arm.

Hahaha no, not at all. I have never been on a gay thread, this is the only thread I have and am currently on. Never was on any forums before. . ."YOU ARE MY FIRST

(August 6, 2015 at 9:56 am)Anima Wrote:

(August 4, 2015 at 6:53 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: What does any of this have to do with marriage? Even if he could establish (which he can't) that gays negatively impact society why would marriage make a difference? It's not like if you stop gay marriage, you put end to homosexuality.

I have already established that.  No rebuttal has been given other than to say their negative impact is sufficiently minimal as to be offset by the proper conduct of the rest.  To which I responded such may be said about the murder as well.  They are not only prevalent through out human and animal society and history, but their conduct is sufficiently minimal as to be offset by the proper conduct of the rest.  So why do we not give them governmental recognition and dignity?

I await the special pleading.

What negative impact could a gay person have on society that is exclusive to being gay.

Still waiting on all these child marriages that were apparently inevitable should this decision be made...

And bestial marriages, rob dear, don't forget those.

Great, now I just gotta find someone to marry

*looks around menacingly*

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(August 7, 2015 at 5:14 am)robvalue Wrote: Still waiting on all these child marriages that were apparently inevitable should this decision be made...

Actual there is legal precedent of young ages and arranged marriages in this country.
Example Edgar Allan Poe wife was 13 when they marred. In fact it was very common for girls to get married at the age of 12 or 13. In arranged marriages it is very common to have kids as you as 7 or 4 set to marry.

It will be amazingly simple to legalize it, all that needs to be done is the removal of the age restriction.
Since age restriction is decided by the states, not federal, as to when someone can enter into contracts/agreements it will be easy.
Right new Texas allow kids to marry at 14 (with parents connect)

Now we can argue "will it is teen ages so that is OK". NO, there are many studied and scientific evident that these teens are still very young with a child like mentality. For example the completion of a persons brain development is estimated at around age 25.
Also, there will always be someone who will push for the number's to go just little more lower. "whats the difference between 13 to 12? Whats the difference between 12 and 11? Whats the difference between 11 and 10? And so on.