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Cops in my place are fucking assholes.
There was this instance when my friend got his phone stolen and he went to file a complaint.
The Cops were hugely disrespectful and were being assholes to him.So he called his dad and went to the station,this time all the Cops started acting super nice.
Although some of the Cops are very nice with other people.
And then there are Cops that think they own the city and everybody else is their slave.
They are so insecure that they will go as far as to make you feel hell if you don't treat them with utmost respect and consider them divine.
The amounts being paid out can reach staggering proportions. Obviously the problem here is that if a cop fucks someone over the city pays - not the cop. May be a good place to start the change.
Quote:U.S. cities pay out millions to settle police lawsuits
Quote:The city has spent $5.7 million on settlements and awards, and another $5.8 million in legal fees. Were it not for the statutory limit (which frankly seems both low and unfair), the former figure would likely be a lot higher.
The Chicago Sun-Times reported earlier this year that the city has payed out nearly half a billion dollars in settlements over the past decade, and spent $84.6 million in fees, settlements, and awards last year. The Chicago Police Department is about three times the size of the Baltimore PD. Chicago the city has about four times as many people as Baltimore. Crunch those numbers as you wish. Bloomberg News reported that in 2011, Los Angeles paid out $54 million, while New York paid out a whopping $735 million, although those figures include negligence and other claims unrelated to police abuse. Oakland Police Beat reported in April that the city had paid out $74 million to settle 417 lawsuits since 1990. That’s a little more than $3 million per year. The Denver Post reported in August that the Mile High City paid $13 million over 10 years. The Dallas Morning News reported in May that the city has forked over $6 million since 2011. And last month, Minneapolis Public Radio put that city’s payout at $21 million since 2003.
(August 13, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I don't understand what goes through the heads of these cops.
When you're keeping someone in a cage, you're fully responsible for their needs. they can't just go out and do this themselves. They need the cops to do it for them, and when someone dies in a cell it's going to be largely the officer's fault. If you don't think you can take care of someone while they're in custody, then don't put them in there.
They're supposed to be the good guys. I'm white, so I grew up believing the police should always be trusted. If I'm in a public place, and get separated form my parents, I'm taught to find a cop. When I have an issue, I call 911. These people know how they're supposed to act, because they act right with white people. They just choose not to, and people at large wonder why the black community is sometimes more chaotic than white neighborhoods. You would be too, if you can't trust the people patrolling the streets.
It is hard to say what is going on inside someone's head, though one can make a pretty good guess based on the person's actions. And obviously, different cops have different things going on in their heads, as is evidenced from the fact that they do not all behave identically.
In this sort of case, though, I suspect that very often the cops do not think of black people as being fully people. More like animals, or evil demons, or something subhuman. If they did not think such types of things, they would treat black people like people.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
(August 13, 2015 at 3:19 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: In this sort of case, though, I suspect that very often the cops do not think of black people as being fully people. More like animals, or evil demons, or something subhuman. If they did not think such types of things, they would treat black people like people.
I have to wonder if there's a connection between ^^^ this ^^^ and the apparent increase in militarization of police forces - that is, if it's something in their training.
(August 13, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(August 13, 2015 at 3:19 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: In this sort of case, though, I suspect that very often the cops do not think of black people as being fully people. More like animals, or evil demons, or something subhuman. If they did not think such types of things, they would treat black people like people.
I have to wonder if there's a connection between ^^^ this ^^^ and the apparent increase in militarization of police forces - that is, if it's something in their training.
Probably. It is common in warfare to demonize the enemy, to consider them subhuman. They are easier to kill that way.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
(August 13, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I have to wonder if there's a connection between ^^^ this ^^^ and the apparent increase in militarization of police forces - that is, if it's something in their training.
Probably. It is common in warfare to demonize the enemy, to consider them subhuman. They are easier to kill that way.
Yeah, that was the lines I was thinking along. What you said tickled something from my military training. *If* that is what's happening, its an extreme injustice. There's a reason the military makes for lousy law enforcement.
The amounts being paid out can reach staggering proportions. Obviously the problem here is that if a cop fucks someone over the city pays - not the cop. May be a good place to start the change.
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U.S. cities pay out millions to settle police lawsuits
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The city has spent $5.7 million on settlements and awards, and another $5.8 million in legal fees. Were it not for the statutory limit (which frankly seems both low and unfair), the former figure would likely be a lot higher.
The Chicago Sun-Times reported earlier this year that the city has payed out nearly half a billion dollars in settlements over the past decade, and spent $84.6 million in fees, settlements, and awards last year. The Chicago Police Department is about three times the size of the Baltimore PD. Chicago the city has about four times as many people as Baltimore. Crunch those numbers as you wish. Bloomberg News reported that in 2011, Los Angeles paid out $54 million, while New York paid out a whopping $735 million, although those figures include negligence and other claims unrelated to police abuse. Oakland Police Beat reported in April that the city had paid out $74 million to settle 417 lawsuits since 1990. That’s a little more than $3 million per year. The Denver Post reported in August that the Mile High City paid $13 million over 10 years. The Dallas Morning News reported in May that the city has forked over $6 million since 2011. And last month, Minneapolis Public Radio put that city’s payout at $21 million since 2003.
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The taxpayers are being robbed left and right.
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If the dummy taxpayers got off of their cop-loving butts and made changes they wouldn't have to pay out those $billions to cover for the Slave Patrol. But they are willing to pay as long as the Slave Patrol continues to oppress people they don't like.
(August 13, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I don't understand what goes through the heads of these cops.
When you're keeping someone in a cage, you're fully responsible for their needs. they can't just go out and do this themselves. They need the cops to do it for them, and when someone dies in a cell it's going to be largely the officer's fault. If you don't think you can take care of someone while they're in custody, then don't put them in there.
They're supposed to be the good guys. I'm white, so I grew up believing the police should always be trusted. If I'm in a public place, and get separated form my parents, I'm taught to find a cop. When I have an issue, I call 911. These people know how they're supposed to act, because they act right with white people. They just choose not to, and people at large wonder why the black community is sometimes more chaotic than white neighborhoods. You would be too, if you can't trust the people patrolling the streets.
It is hard to say what is going on inside someone's head, though one can make a pretty good guess based on the person's actions. And obviously, different cops have different things going on in their heads, as is evidenced from the fact that they do not all behave identically.
In this sort of case, though, I suspect that very often the cops do not think of black people as being fully people. More like animals, or evil demons, or something subhuman. If they did not think such types of things, they would treat black people like people.
The one thing that needs to be explained then is why black cops are just as vicious towards minorities as white cops? It is the police mentality that needs to be examined. The simplistic solution of just hiring more minority cops is not the answer. We need BETTER cops not just darker cops.
Up above I posted the tale of the white guy who punched out 7 cops and did not get shot for his trouble. Here is another take on that from The Daily Kos and followed up by a black teen who punched no one and still got shot 7 times. Both are by the same author.
Quote:From the overnight scene to lockup, Parker allegedly injured seven officers. The police chief says the man battled, nearly breaking the metal detector.
In the meantime, be black and: Sell cigarettes, get killed Play at a park, get killed Shop at Walmart, get killed Walk with friends, get killed Go down the stairs, get killed Come home from work, get killed
In all of those cases, and in hundreds more like them, unarmed African Americans who posed no physical threat to police were killed by law enforcement.
Unluckily for the cops he survived. They seem to rely on dead men telling no tales.
Quote:they claimed that when they shot Hearns, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, they thought he was reaching for a gun in his waistband. Except, when they got to him, he had nothing.
Quote:The attorney for Radazz Hearns has stated that not only did police roll up in an unmarked vehicle, they weren't in uniforms when they got out of the vehicle late at night.
Like magic, though, a full 12 hours after they shot Hearns seven times, police claimed to find a gun near the scene underneath a vehicle.
