Right or wrong, I find some of the leaked info interesting.  Sorry, I guess it's in my nature to be a bit snoopy.

Saw this posted on facebook.  
Josh Duggar...yes, the one who molested his sisters and other girls, was also using the AM site.  Surprise???

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/an...ar-BBm3x61


The tiny mean part of my spirit is curious to see if there are any politicians, religious leaders, etc in there.  You know, the people who act like they are morally superior to the rest of us, but turns out they are just faulty humans.  Perhaps it is sick of me to see that, but I think some of these hypocritical asses NEED to be taken down a few pegs (and their fan bases with them).

You mean like Hamza Tzortis?

http://atheistforums.org/thread-35621.html

Also, while reading comment on the internet in general, I'm finding this double standard annoying.

Man cheats: Hey, he's just a man with urges! It's very common for men to cheat, and everyone makes mistakes. Forgive him and move on with life.
Woman cheats (or is identified as the person the man is cheating with): Slut. Whore. Homewrecker. Didn't you think about your own kids, or his kids? Bitch.

I'm not saying everyone holds these views, and I certainly don't see much of that here on AF, but go read some other articles about AM, and the comments are just appalling.

(August 25, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Aroura Wrote: Also, while reading comment on the internet in general, I'm finding this double standard annoying.

Man cheats:  Hey, he's just a man with urges!  It's very common for men to cheat, and everyone makes mistakes. Forgive him and move on with life.
Woman cheats (or is identified as the person the man is cheating with): Slut.  Whore. Homewrecker. Didn't you think about your own kids, or his kids? Bitch.

I'm not saying everyone holds these views, and I certainly don't see much of that here on AF, but go read some other articles about AM, and the comments are just appalling.

Oh my gosh, I hate that SO MUCH!!! 

Few things bother me more than double standards in general, but the woman/man double standard when it comes to sex is particularly annoying. Also, if a girl sleeps around, she's a slut, but if a guy does it he's just being a guy. Ugh.

In the case of Hamza and Tzortzis, whether or not they're site users isn't even the tiniest fraction of why they're dicks..lol.  But, suppose that there are political leaders etc amogst the user base.....we're "knocking them down a peg" how, exactly, by recognizing what we all should have already known...that they're human?  Meh, I don't get it.  I certainly hope that we aren't electing people based on the notion that they somehow aren't...lol.

Interesting thing about that double standard, I've experienced it applied in the opposite direction.  Man cheats, he's a dick, period.  Woman cheats, she had reasons.  If a guy sleeps around - very promiscuous-, females don't seem particularly inclined to accept that, at least no moreso than males...course, guys are always on the lookout for that easy girl..I wonder, having never been a woman, yall ever on the prowl for the easy guy? I assume you are, from time to time? Either way it's ridiculous. I think you see one side represented over the other in comments because the interwebs are filled with trolling tween and teenaged boys..lol.  

People cheat, they do it for reasons, they do it because they're dicks, they do it just because.

(August 25, 2015 at 12:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: In the case of Hamza and Tzortzis, whether or not they're site users isn't even the tiniest fraction of why they're dicks..lol.  But, suppose that there are political leaders etc amogst the user base.....we're "knocking them down a peg" how, exactly, by recognizing what we all should have already known...that they're human?  Meh, I don't get it.  I certainly hope that we aren't electing people based on the notion that they somehow aren't...lol.

Interesting thing about that double standard, I've experienced it applied in the opposite direction.  Man cheats, he's a dick, period.  Woman cheats, she had reasons.  If a guy sleeps around - very promiscuous-, females don't seem particularly inclined to accept that, at least no moreso than males...course, guys are always on the lookout for that easy girl..I wonder, having never been a woman, yall ever on the prowl for the easy guy?  I assume you are, from time to time?  Either way it's ridiculous.  I think you see one side represented over the other in comments because the interwebs are filled with trolling tween and teenaged boys..lol.  

People cheat, they do it for reasons, they do it because they're dicks, they do it just because.

Yes, thank you for regurgitating what half the internet says about being human and making mistakes.  Which we are, and we do, but that was not my point at ALL.

I'm talking about the people who claim to have better morals than us regular mortals.  Hamza is actually a perfect example.  He put himself on a pedestal of moral superiority, claimed the high ground, and denounced THIS SPECIFIC BEHAVIOR (amongst many others).  If these kind of people lose followers because their public no longer sees them as moral paragons, then that is a happy side effect of this unhappy situation, IMHO.

It's like when Ted Haggart went on and on about the immorality of homosexuality...then got caught with a male prostitute. It punctures that magical aura that their follower tend to ascribe them.

The Duggars had a HUGE following of people, thinking these people lived perfect happy lives. They perpetuated a myth that evangelical, quiverfull, Christian families are happier and more M and less prone to these sorts of human errors. They lived a lie, and I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg with Josh. Again, if it plants doubt for some people that religion = better morals.....that's a GOOD thing!

For the average Joe Scmoe, no, I gain no joy in seeing their lives hurt or ruined by this.

I guess I just see them all as average Joe Schmoes. No myth to be dispelled, no aura to dissipate. I don't think that they're going to lose followers over it, though, at least nothing significant. People who believe weird ass shit about their weird ass leaders are unconcerned with trivialities like reality...lol. It;s really nothing that said leader is doing that creates this scenario, those folks are making their own magic, eh?

Are you really using a defense of cheating scumbags to boost you up to your horse, Rhythm?

Would you prefer that I defend you, a busybodying scumbag?  I mean, I'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place here. Perhaps I should just join the choir, silence the minority report....the matra is cheating scumbag, correct? Just tell me where to put my toes and I'll sing the tune. Thing is, even if we both agree that they -are- cheating scumbags, that wont actually make what we're doing any less onerous. You think I didn't giggle a little bit at the news? Has that been unclear, wheres my horse parked Rox, because I don't recall riding in on one. You gonna lash out at me now as well, because of something this ex of yours did that I've failed to sufficiently condemn? I don't know any of those people, I don't know their situations. You, apparently, know -one- of them, I just fail to see how that warrants your appraisal of all of them or the situation as a whole.

Whichever you prefer.