(September 9, 2015 at 4:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Conservatives and liberals do have different views, but one isn't a symbol of hate and evil towards the other. That's where it's different.

Since Christians can't even all agree on hell and the devil, perhaps they should come to a consensus before you decide exactly what is a symbol of hate or evil to them.

And really, what it comes down to, is that if the gov't is going to even pretend to be elected by the people, and serve the people, then regardless of what any of those symbols mean, if they want to allow one they should allow them all. Hence not having a Confederate flag flying in your gov't office. Unless you're open to having a white-hate flag flying, of course. So remove both instances of religion and PRESTO.

By the way, I find the systematic rape and torture of the earth and science denial by many conservatives to be hateful and evil, and much of their speech directed at liberals to be such. Of course, it goes both ways. Try again. There's plenty of hateful symbolism in politics.

(September 9, 2015 at 3:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do I have to care? Lol. I personally don't care whether there are or aren't any religious symbols on public property.

And yet here we are.

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To me, Satanism is a form of self-expression in opposing religion and voicing criticism of the Abrahamic faiths. We're raised to "respect" religion (especially the Abrahamic ones) as something untouchable and unquestionable, so yes it is shocking to see people using the devil as an anti-religious campaign. It's provokes, it gets people talking.

Of course, if you're talking about people seriously believing in the devil, then that is as ridiculous as religion itself. Am I offended by people using Satanic imagery though? No, as an atheist I have no cause to be.

(September 9, 2015 at 4:56 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(September 9, 2015 at 3:50 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do I have to care? Lol. I personally don't care whether there are or aren't any religious symbols on public property.

And yet here we are.

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I think I can be neutral on religious symbols on public property while still being interested in hearing yall's views regarding Satanic symbols and Satanism.

(September 9, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: To me, Satanism is a form of self-expression in opposing religion and voicing criticism of the Abrahamic faiths. We're raised to "respect" religion (especially the Abrahamic ones) as something untouchable and unquestionable, so yes it is shocking to see people using the devil as an anti-religious campaign. It's provokes, it gets people talking.

Of course, if you're talking about people seriously believing in the devil, then that is as ridiculous as religion itself. Am I offended by people using Satanic imagery though? No, as an atheist I have no cause to be.

How do you feel about Satanists saying religion doesn't have to be supernatural and shouldn't have a negative connotation to atheists?

(September 9, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think I can be neutral on religious symbols on public property while still being interested in hearing yall's views regarding Satanic symbols and Satanism.

I'm sure you can.

Well, religion can't not be supernatural tbh, so I'd disagree with them. It's believing in something that science is having a really easy time proving false.

Atheism shouldn't have a negative connotation anyway. I think I speak for a lot of atheists when I say I have no interest in taking religion away from people, I just want it to be a private affair. I don't want it in my life.

A common "complaint", if you will, about atheists from religious people is that we seem to be a rowdy group who can't shut up... disingenuous really, considering there's a lot to discuss while it's religious people who just can't shut up about their religion.

(September 9, 2015 at 5:31 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(September 9, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I think I can be neutral on religious symbols on public property while still being interested in hearing yall's views regarding Satanic symbols and Satanism.

I'm sure you can.

Wonderful. 

(September 9, 2015 at 12:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I have a problem with them wanting to put that up right next to a Christian/Jewish symbol, though. Those Satanists did not invent the symbol of the Demon, the bible did. They took something that was made up to represent evil, and are trying to make it their own. Which is fine, I guess, but by putting it next to the 10 commandments statue, they are deliberately and knowingly trying to "defile" something that is very sacred for the majority of people in this country. Why not just choose a different spot to put their statue in? Its own spot?

There is nothing wrong with defiling a lie, all the less so when it is such a misanthropic lie. The defiling of such a disgusting lie is all the better done by using elements of the lie against it and those gullible enough to prostrate themselves like morons before such a lie.