(September 8, 2015 at 6:36 pm)Losty Wrote: [siderant]You have no business telling anyone else how they should feel about metaphysical purpose. Being an atheist doesn't have anything to do with that. Are you seriously trying to say atheists cannot believe in having a predestined purpose? Have you learned nothing since you got here?[/siderant]
Oh but I can. Rather you cannot tell me I cannot. I am also aware of the general hypocrisy of the atheistic position and have argued it extensively in another thread (which was my first thread). You see if you are to have a justified disagreement with the existence of a thing it will be founded on the lack of direct explicit empirical evidence. When such evidence is missing you may say the thing does not exists (though you are wrong in saying as much, it is at least reasonable). Well metaphysical purpose is equally devoid of direct explicit empirical evidence. Thus if you do not wish to be a hypocrite you should also hold it does not exists. The fact that you say atheist can believe there is a metaphysical PREDESTINED (protestant much?) purpose without evidence while not believing in a god for lack of evidence is text book hypocrisy.
However, I have not learned anything since being here. Not to say that anyone is stupid, but comments by many illustrate ignorance to a far greater degree then enlightenment. In all honesty I thought higher of atheist before coming to this board. You guys seemed more rational and less pathological beforehand; this site has dispelled that anecdotal notion for me. The more I read the more I see the various atheists on this board argue entirely based on subjective sentiment (aka your feelings). Some of you are smart enough to build up mountains of half truths and fallacious arguments as to perpetrate an image of rationalism. But alas, in the end, when argued in accordance with the logic your arguments all devolve into how you in particular feel. Something which neither law, ethics, nor morality could or should ever be predicated on.
Alas it seems the majority (who comment) here are more concerned with justifying their feelings and are only willing to consider things from their own personal view. There was a lot of talk of empathy, but from the comments being made there is neither an ability to empathize or be objective. What is exhibited instead is self projection under the name of empathy to such a degree that endeavoring to discuss logically about a topic in a non-self projecting manner is met with accusations of self projecting ("it is hard to believe others do not do what you, yourself do in the situation"). So learned something while here... hardly and unlikely.
(September 8, 2015 at 6:36 pm)Losty Wrote: Human beings have no biological purpose. We have biological functions. You can say, the biological purpose of sexual intercourse is reproduction. I don't see how you can say the biological purpose for the existence of human beings is anything. I don't think we have a biological purpose.
HA HA!! Let us see if we can help you to figure this out. Biological functions are meant to do something. Would we call what they are meant to do their purpose? Now the amalgamation of biological functions within a given organism and evolution of various organisms overtime are meant to do something as well; which we may once again refer to as a purpose.
Now if we consider biological functions and biological evolution we observe both are orientated or mean to keep the organism alive. Now is that alive unto eternity, the next shit, or intergalactic conquest? Well let us consider the evidence as observed by the vast majority of biological organisms. They do not live unto eternity so that cannot be the purpose of biological functions or evolution. They do not live only to shit; so that cannot be it. Nor do they live until intergalactic conquest has been achieved. Alas it would seem nearly every biological organism's biological functions and evolution is to extend the life of the organism to the point of procreation. After this is achieved nearly every biological organism on this planet ceases biological functions (dies).
So if we were to say biology (as a general term) is evidenced to do something, it is to the procreation of the biology (we are of course ignoring the quintessential biological function of cells is to live until cellular procreation of other biological cells). Now if we say what something was meant to do is its purpose than we would say the biological purpose, as evidenced, of biological existence is procreation (as biological existence of biological organisms is general extended to this point and not beyond by means of biological functions and evolution.) Hence while metaphysical purpose of being is devoid of direct empirical evidence (and thus as "real" as an imaginary guy in the sky or in one's mind) the biological purpose of being is supported by direct empirical evidence as being procreative.
