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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 18, 2015 at 6:19 pm
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(September 18, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 4:44 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Normally, I would inquire into your authored books for the purpose of reading, but I just spent 9 years of my life doing little but reading, so I'm kind of on a book vacation for at least the next several months. 
As long as you're not on a cerebral vacation, s'all one to me.
Really, it's more that I'm trying to rebuild my life, and repair the psychological and emotional damage that was done by the cruelty of the Powers that Be as they used every dirty trick in their arsenal to try to "break" me into Confessing and then naming names (snitching, colloquially), which I refused to do... because 1) the charges were false, and 2) there were therefore no names to give them.
Addendum to translate: I come to AF as a way of socially interacting and employing my brain, without the stress of trying to interact (outside of my job) with people, which still tends to stress me out. Ironically, I find the company of African Americans easier to tolerate because they tend to be more aware of the issues faced by those who've been incarcerated, and when I have to explain about how I spent the last decade of my life, they just nod and tell me about their cousin/father/brother/bestie/self who spent a big chunk of time in the joint as well... whereas white people typically have on the blinders we've been discussing, so they tend to either press me for details I don't want to talk/think about or they get weird about it, often blown away (because I'm such a nice guy and don't "look/sound/act like a criminal", whatever that means) to the point they start revealing their ignorance and prejudice with "How could that have happened to YOU?" questions. 
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 18, 2015 at 7:06 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 6:19 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: As long as you're not on a cerebral vacation, s'all one to me.
Really, it's more that I'm trying to rebuild my life, and repair the psychological and emotional damage that was done by the cruelty of the Powers that Be as they used every dirty trick in their arsenal to try to "break" me into Confessing and then naming names (snitching, colloquially), which I refused to do... because 1) the charges were false, and 2) there were therefore no names to give them.
Addendum to translate: I come to AF as a way of socially interacting and employing my brain, without the stress of trying to interact (outside of my job) with people, which still tends to stress me out. Ironically, I find the company of African Americans easier to tolerate because they tend to be more aware of the issues faced by those who've been incarcerated, and when I have to explain about how I spent the last decade of my life, they just nod and tell me about their cousin/father/brother/bestie/self who spent a big chunk of time in the joint as well... whereas white people typically have on the blinders we've been discussing, so they tend to either press me for details I don't want to talk/think about or they get weird about it, often blown away (because I'm such a nice guy and don't "look/sound/act like a criminal", whatever that means) to the point they start revealing their ignorance and prejudice with "How could that have happened to YOU?" questions.
i hadn’t connected the 9 years you spent reading with the 9 years you spent in jail. I was just thinking there’s this really intelligent guy and I want him to know that I’m intelligent too and worth his time to talk to. Talking to you is like talking to my father or my cousin, sharing ideas.
And I understand how it is easier to deal with people at AF than face to face. With me it’s because I’m blind and hearing impaired. I love people but sometimes I just rather be alone.
Keep doing whatcha doing, man.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 19, 2015 at 12:40 am
(September 18, 2015 at 7:06 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I was just thinking there’s this really intelligent guy and I want him to know that I’m intelligent too and worth his time to talk to.
I just caught this, on my second read-through (I've been out riding the motorcycle, tonight; just got in).
That's very sweet of you to say, but I can see how smart you are by how you speak/write... and if I can't, I'm clearly not as intelligent as I claim to be. You don't need validation from anyone.
That said, I enjoy every post you make on here, Rhonda. I mean that.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 19, 2015 at 9:15 am
(September 19, 2015 at 12:40 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 7:06 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I was just thinking there’s this really intelligent guy and I want him to know that I’m intelligent too and worth his time to talk to.
I just caught this, on my second read-through (I've been out riding the motorcycle, tonight; just got in).
That's very sweet of you to say, but I can see how smart you are by how you speak/write... and if I can't, I'm clearly not as intelligent as I claim to be. You don't need validation from anyone.
That said, I enjoy every post you make on here, Rhonda. I mean that. Then we will celebrate one another's existence. That's what we're here for. Knowamsane?
I finished the prologue of Guns, Germs and Steel last night. It promises to be interesting and balanced in its perspective.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm
(September 19, 2015 at 9:15 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: (September 19, 2015 at 12:40 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I just caught this, on my second read-through (I've been out riding the motorcycle, tonight; just got in).
That's very sweet of you to say, but I can see how smart you are by how you speak/write... and if I can't, I'm clearly not as intelligent as I claim to be. You don't need validation from anyone.
That said, I enjoy every post you make on here, Rhonda. I mean that. Then we will celebrate one another's existence. That's what we're here for. Knowamsane?
I finished the prologue of Guns, Germs and Steel last night. It promises to be interesting and balanced in its perspective.
Excellent read. Really explains a lot of things.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 20, 2015 at 7:52 am
(September 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 19, 2015 at 9:15 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Then we will celebrate one another's existence. That's what we're here for. Knowamsane?
I finished the prologue of Guns, Germs and Steel last night. It promises to be interesting and balanced in its perspective.
Excellent read. Really explains a lot of things. On chapter 5 now. I wonder what direction he will take in answering Yali's question.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 20, 2015 at 2:27 pm
(September 20, 2015 at 7:52 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: (September 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Excellent read. Really explains a lot of things. On chapter 5 now. I wonder what direction he will take in answering Yali's question.
I wont spoil it.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 20, 2015 at 2:45 pm
(September 20, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 20, 2015 at 7:52 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: On chapter 5 now. I wonder what direction he will take in answering Yali's question.
I wont spoil it.
Much grass
Muchas gracias
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 20, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Heh, my dad grew up in Miami, and as such speaks fluent Spanish. However, he didn't teach it to me, though my mother taught me Cajun French until I was five, at which time we (sadly) discontinued it. Dad likes to harass us when we speak French together by mocking (usually just starts shouting, "oo-ie oo-ie oo-ie mon-soor!"), so when my dad uses a Spanish phrase, I'll reply with "Much ass, grassy ass."
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: All white people are racists...or "white fragility" ??
September 20, 2015 at 4:34 pm
Bleh, this whole subject gives me a headache.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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