(September 19, 2015 at 8:13 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(September 19, 2015 at 3:09 am)Losty Wrote: Lol... he doesn't believe in the rapture.

The vast majority of us don't.

Maybe you're not doing it right?


Wait, this isn't area 69.  Never mind.

(September 19, 2015 at 11:26 am)Losty Wrote:

(September 19, 2015 at 8:13 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The vast majority of us don't.

We did when I was a kid. The whole idea was pretty terrifying. I still think teaching children about things like the rapture and hell is extremely cruel if not child abuse.

I was taught about the existence of hell. Never once felt like my parents were abusing me though. But I can see how it can be done in such a way that is absolutely abuse.

My parents never talked about hell. The priests did. It was the late 60ies and the Catholic church was much more powerful than it is today. In fact, the stories about hell beat the stories about Jesus by a long chalk. They did an excellent job of turning us off and ultimately away from the church.

(September 19, 2015 at 12:23 pm)abaris Wrote: My parents never talked about hell. The priests did. It was the late 60ies and the Catholic church was much more powerful than it is today. In fact, the stories about hell beat the stories about Jesus by a long chalk. They did an excellent job of turning us off and ultimately away from the church.

Yeah that's not cool. I think the part of the world you live in and its culture may have played a role, too. My parents are South Americans born in the 50's and both raised in Catholic homes and went to Catholic school. They didn't get that kind of stuff about Hell like that.

(September 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Chuck Wrote: He is insane.

Why? He never said that God, women, men or his horse spoke back; in any language.

It's not cool, in general. But, it's not just a catholic or christian thing. Hell is an evil thing taught among many religions.

I suppose it's a good way to keep people fearing for their soul in order to stay in that religion. That's why I didn't stop believing at 12, thanks to the fear of hell. Ooohh religion, you are something else..

(September 19, 2015 at 2:33 am)Minimalist Wrote: D-P is a superb scholar.

I remember him laying the smack down on some christians using his incredible knowledge of history. Just like you Min He would make a great mod, if this place needed a non-atheist, but I don't think it's at that of a desperate point here. There are many better atheists candidates here than theists for mods.

(September 19, 2015 at 1:00 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I suppose it's a good way to keep people fearing for their soul in order to stay in that religion.

It had the opposite effect on me. First, I partitioned, seeing god and Jesus as two different persons. Then I started to question and ultimately, my disbelief got the better of me.

With 40,000 schisms so far, I'd say there has been a SHITLOAD of intramural insulting of Christians by Christians.

Not sure what further outrage atheists could generate at this point.

(September 19, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I remember him laying the smack down on some christians using his incredible knowledge of history. Just like you Min He would make a great mod, if this place needed a non-atheist, but I don't think it's at that of a desperate point here. There are many better atheists candidates here than theists for mods.

I'm sure I speak for all m'colleagues that DP is more than welcome to rejoin the Staff.