I just googled a word from this thread that I wasn't familiar with. Why did I do that? Why?

A straw will never seem the same again.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Btw, and contrary to popular belief, I am definitely not a prude lol. Being Christian and not liking porn, doesn't make someone a prude. Sorry for getting personal, but just to drive the point home, my husband and I sext, send each other naked pictures, make "videos" together, use "play things", have sexy talk, use lingerie (just me), and pretty much anything else any healthy, happy couple does.

...All after we were married of course.  

No need to apologise. No need...at all.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 5, 2015 at 8:58 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: How people find personal physical pleasure is not my concern.  But if you want my personal perspective:

Anal - not appealing to me at all.  That hole has one purpose in my opinion.
Felching - I had to look this up.  Again not appealing in the slightest.  
Oral - nothing wrong with it.  
Fisting - Um, that just sounds painful
Three or more - Not appealing.  I don't share.

LOL, these would pretty much be my responses to a tea. Right down to having to look up the meaning of felching.

To be fair, I was simply seeing if King would drop his monocle and harrumph. Silly of me really.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:40 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(October 5, 2015 at 8:41 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Porn to me is just not appealing.  Watching other people do it does not get me in the mood.  Sex is about being personal and intimate with one person and one person that you care deeply about.  A person that knows the real you.  That you can be who you are around, who lifts you up, cares for you, will do anything for you.  I may be a hopeless romantic and extremely sappy, but sex is about love.  Like I said I know it can be enjoyed from a physical aspect, but there is more to it than that, at least for me.  So while porn can certainly provide a fulfillment for the base urges, I think it falls desperately short on the overall experience.  

Everyone has their own opinions on it and I'm sure you all know me by now that I have no problem with that, but I wanted to start this thread and give my personal Christian perspective on the topic.

I think you are conflating porn and sex, when in reality they are very different. Porn is not a replacement for actual sex, nor should it be, but rather it's a form of entertainment. The goal of watching porn is more often than not, self pleasure, whereas the goal of sex is about pleasuring your partner (and being pleasured in return).

I know you say that watching other people doesn't get you in the mood, but in the call you also said that you'd never watched porn before, so I find this doubtful. There's an instinctual level that comes into play when watching sex, and I think if you watched the more artful kinds of porn (rather than anything "hardcore") you'd find yourself being turned on by it.

Quick question as a follow up: have you ever looked through a series of nude photographs (of just women)? If so, did you get turned on by those?

I suppose I can see the delineation you are making there.  I equate porn with the hardcore stuff.  Though I guess an R rated movie with a racy sex scene can equally be described as porn and would fall under that "entertainment" as you say.  So I guess the hardcore porn or purpose of watching two people just having sex to be entertained is not appealing to me.   In the context of a movie with a story and a clear emotional attachment, yes that certainly can get me in the mood, but it's more because of the passion and connectedness of the actors in the scene and not the physical act itself.  Sure I've seen porn but never by my own conscious decision.  Im in IT, so the number of infected computers I've seen with porn on it is innumerable but there is big difference in seeing it and making a decision to watch it, so I should have clarified. 

I've seen nude photographs of women sure.  I've been to museums where the human body is proudly displayed as art and I've not been turned on by it.  For me it's the connection and passion.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Iroscato Wrote:

(October 5, 2015 at 9:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: LOL, these would pretty much be my responses to a tea. Right down to having to look up the meaning of felching.

To be fair, I was simply seeing if King would drop his monocle and harrumph. Silly of me really.

Nah, you should know by now I don't do that sort of thing.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Thena323 Wrote: I just googled a word from this thread that I wasn't familiar with. Why did I do that? Why?

A straw will never seem the same again.

Lol, I had to google the same word.....I know what you mean.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:51 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:

(October 5, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Iroscato Wrote: To be fair, I was simply seeing if King would drop his monocle and harrumph. Silly of me really.

Nah, you should know by now I don't do that sort of thing.

One last effort, I suppose. You have passed all security checks. You're good.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:00 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Here I thought this thread was going to be about the fact that conservative, religious types view more porn than average.  See:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the...ornography

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-side.html

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/19/why_red_...s_partner/

And you can search for more on this sort of thing.

Oh I will never deny that.  I think those numbers are like that because of the stigma that the religious leaders put on sex.  They tell kids its bad, its gross, its evil, but their biology tells them otherwise.  It's really a shame.

There's a specialist term for men who say, that while there's nothing wrong with porn, they themselves don't find it stimulating - "liars".
Don't get me wrong - I used to say the same thing, back when I gave a sh*t about what people think of me and when I thought I was fooling anyone.

Men are incredibly easy to excite - a rudely shaped vegetable is often enough, let alone audio-visuals of people having sex.
Sure - we've been taught that such reactions to indirect sexual stimuli is shallow, immature and unbecoming of a gentleman, but just because we can supress those instincts - that doesn't mean we don't have them.

Sure - many people abstain from erotic entertainment, at least to a certain degree (since we apparently have to have a f***-scene in pretty much every movie directed at adults), but that's just adherence to cultural norms, which have been forced on us since childhood.

(October 5, 2015 at 9:22 pm)Exian Wrote:

(October 5, 2015 at 9:07 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I've had sex with it being "just physical" before without getting attached, so yeah I do think it can be totally physical. I don't even need to be drunk enough for it. To me, sex is just sex, it's fun but it's not a massive deal as a casual thing.

Porn is fun, I just don't take it too seriously. It's only problematic when people see it as an accurate representation of real sex, which it rarely (if ever) is.

Can't fake those giant porn hogs though!

I'm not a fan of big wangs anyway. They're overrated. Give me an average sized guy who really knows how to use it.