Yeah and like I said before Jenny because they are professionals that is why my mental health team always kept religion and God separate from their job. It is NOT because they are atheists. Many of them aren't and I even heard from people that my psych was a Christian. He was just intelligent and professional enough to know to keep it completely separate from his job. He knew I was an atheist and he said he always found what I had to say interesting and intelligent.

(October 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: although really nothing would convince athiests that God exists i think  not even a machine or a scientists stamp of approval they would just think its a hoax .

Well, thanks for speaking for us.

(October 12, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Losty Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 8:59 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: well since diagnosis is based on personal views and opinions i think its important to know what those personal views are .

No it is not. A medical diagnosis is based on medical knowledge. Otherwise anyone could be a doctor

were not talking about a medical doctor whos diagnosis is based on established science were talking about psychiatrists who treat the mind and thats not based on science its only based on opinions of the psychiatrists and what unscientific theories that they believe in .

(October 12, 2015 at 9:10 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 8:57 pm)Losty Wrote: How do you know

my mind recognizes thoughts that are familiar just like your mind recognizes thoughts that are familiar . if i experience something new my mind knows its new and it is capable of distinguishing between things that are different our minds are constantly analyzing thoughts and experiences.

Are you suggesting that all creative and original thoughts, all thoughts that aren't merely memories - come from God? Wtf?

(October 12, 2015 at 8:58 pm)Losty Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i dont hear voices

You don't??? I thought you said you did. Which is it

no your just confused again ...

Just wondering,  Evie, are you and Losty the same person?  Your avatar is cute

...it's always nice seeing things that are different getting along

(October 12, 2015 at 9:10 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 8:57 pm)Losty Wrote: How do you know

my mind recognizes thoughts that are familiar just like your mind recognizes thoughts that are familiar . if i experience something new my mind knows its new and it is capable of distinguishing between things that are different our minds are constantly analyzing thoughts and experiences.

So you believe yourself incapable of having new thoughts? Interesting. Weird.

@hmmm

I am the kitten and Evie is my best turtle

(October 12, 2015 at 9:27 pm)Losty Wrote: @hmmm

I am the kitten and Evie is my best turtle

Awww, I love that...I'll try to keep the two of you straight

(October 12, 2015 at 9:00 pm)Evie Wrote: For you to know thoughts are not your own they would have to be sufficiently different. If they are sufficiently different they are no longer thoughts anymore so the whole concept is a fucking mess. How can you hear thoughts in YOUR head and say "Oh these thoughts in my head are not my thoughts they are from God"?! They're in your HEAD heard as THOUGHTS that makes them nothing to do with God who is fucking unfalsifiable B.S you can't disprove anyway!

(Not actually angry just passionate, hope I haven't offended you at all Jenny, no harm done).

its ok you just dont understand . yes they are sufficiently different in form and substance they are completely different . why wouldnt they be thoughts anymore just because they are different ? its not a mess , theyre thoughts that my mind does not recognize as being produced from within my mind . I dont really consider thoughts to be something you can " hear " hearing is for audible sound that your ears pick up ... and i have no idea what you mean by  " They're in your HEAD heard as THOUGHTS that makes them nothing to do with God who is fucking unfalsifiable B.S you can't disprove anyway! "  ... im guessing that you meant to say that i cant 'prove anyway!' ... yes i already said i cant prove it to you if God appeared before you youd probabally just go to a psychiatrist and get on meds or think it was all your imagination or you were dreaming exc. your the last person i could convince .