(October 17, 2015 at 9:55 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 9:25 am)Blondie Wrote: My Opinion here.

Hindu - Believe in re-incarnation - Why would anyone want to live forever anyway the way this world is going?
Buddhism - Worship statue - What good does that do anyone to worship a statue?
Islam  - Kiss Black Rock-        Mohammad got mad at the Jews for not accepting him as a prophet.  He got ticked and re-wrote his qur'an and made the
            worship Moon god  world hate Jews and the infadels. Lie, Steal, Cheat, Murder, Torture Women, Rape females, screw sheep, and kill anyone who
                                              refuses to convert or don't agree with them.  Why worship something that teaches pure evil?
Vodoo - Puts curses and hexes on people and celebrates the dead. - What is the hope in that? 
Atheism - Belief in No God or -  No hope for anything
               Deity
Judaism - Belief In one God -  Misses their Savior because they reject Him after it has been fore-told about 700 years before it happened.
Satanism - Lucifier is god -   Well, this one I think is ironic.  If you worship Satan this bluntly and you believe he exist, then God exists.  The only way to get the
                                            true account is out of the Bible unless you talk to Satan yourself.  Witchcraft, fortune telling, etc all comes from Satan. 
Christianity - Belief of One God -Started from Judaism.  The Christians accepted Jesus and His teachings.  Christianity is about loving each other and turning
                     and the Trinity     the other cheek.  Christianity out of all these other religions offer hope if you just have a little bit of faith.  In the beginning,
                                                 it had a tough start as many of the disciples where put to death along any believer.  Christianity has Judaism roots and
                                                therefore the oldest religion I have mentioned.  God actually cares about human beings.
Paganism  - Belief in more than one god -  Mainly idol worshipers.  Statues that can't do anything for you.

You do not understand the difference between all the different religions.

Buddhism is probably the best religion there is for bringing about world peace. It teaches that we will always desire more and will never be happy with what we've got and how we should actually appreciate what we have instead. Buddhists also believe in reincarnation.

Paganism is just an umbrella term for any superstition that was subverted by organised religion.

Satanism is about valuing the ability to think freely.

Judaism - You say that they reject their saviour, well Muslims can say the same about you because Mohammed came after Jesus.

(October 17, 2015 at 9:25 am)Blondie Wrote: Christianity is the one that is often disputed, but Christianity is the only religion that teaches true freedom and offer hope beyond what the human mind can comprehend. It is the religion that has survived longer than any two thousand years. 

Actually less than 2,000 years even if you believe Jesus existed. Christianity did not exist when Jesus was a child.

(October 17, 2015 at 9:25 am)Blondie Wrote: There are also scientific proof that God does exist.  DNA was created by intelligent design.  Really if we came from monkeys enough time has passed to have already had the so called missing link.  Monkeys would have been extinct completely if we actually evolved from them.  Everything we have today was created by intelligent design.  The evolution theory, ice age theory, big bang theory are exactly like they are theories that are excuses for humans not to believe in God and escape responsibility.  This not the entire reason, but for all of these reasons is my reasoning logically to believe in my God.

Entirely wrong based on your misunderstanding of the scientific . The theory of intelligent design has been refuted, has no explanatory power and is not useful.

These theories were derived from evidence. They weren't created as an excuse to not believe in God. You also need to learn about the scientific method.

Satanism - when it gets to the point of sacrificing animals, raping children, and sacrificing babies, it ain't no better than Islam.  Satan don't care what you do as long as you don't believe in God, he's got ya whether you know it or not.
Buddhism - maybe one for bringing world peace, but the Islamic religion is going to trump this sorry.  Will not be any peace as long as the Muslims are around.
Paganism - I will go along with that.  It is an umbrella term.
Judaism - "You say that they reject their saviour, well Muslims can say the same about you because Mohammed came after Jesus." Well yes they can.  But the thing is Muslims admit Jesus has existed, but Jesus' body can't be found.  Mohammad on the other hand, he died by poison and his body is still sitting in a tomb rotting.  Even Mohammad don't know who or what gave him what he written down.  So you have anything else? 

No Christianity did not exist when Jesus was a child.  He was already crucified before it got its start. Christianity was completed after the cross.   That was the New Covenant. Because of the persecution of the land, it took some time to write down everything and let the word spread. 

If the theories are 100% perfect, why are they still called theories if they are perfect?  Why not intelligent design?  I do think there is micro evolution, but macro-evolution, there is no proof. Monkeys again would be extinct completely if human became from monkeys no.  There is also scientific proof that the universe is younger than what you think based on scientific evidence. There have been rocks proven only to be 40 years old when they were originally thought be hundreds of years old.  Astrologists have found that some stars do not last as long as some of the the other stars and also prove the age of the universe.  Macro evolution theory is full of crap.  There are so much missing information that would prove it.  It is easier to believe in evolution then it is intelligent design.  Let's look at the definition,  a theory is an educated guess. at best.  There is no proof of the big bang because humans simply didn't exist.  Evolution has been dismissed but atheists still demand to teach that crap.  Ice Age theory killing dinosaurs but then scientists can't seem to make up their minds if it was the volcanoes, or comets., or whatever.  The problem with atheists is that they can't seem to get the theories straight and stick to one theory and accept in truth.  Christians and Jews believe the Creation Story therefore believing in Intelligent Design which is so much easier than coming up with educated excuses to not believe.

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(October 17, 2015 at 10:00 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 9:42 am)Blondie Wrote: I have read the Qur'an.  Only the most retarded people on earth are the only ones who could even possibly be that freaking stupid.  That is why they do not educate their women.  Ignorant people are easier to control.  This Islamic religion is all about control.  The educated have control of the ignorant.  When I was reading it, I could not help but laugh at the stupid people out here who really believe something so stupid.  The stupidity of people have really surprised me.  After I got educated if I was unfortunately born to those monkeys, I would burn that qur'an and left.  I would never look back.  I went to school with a couple of Muslims that have been Americanized. One of them said that their customs are if he did not marry at a certain age that he would have to marry his sister. THAT my friend is incest.  Even you yourself would run like hell.  I don't think you would do any different. I am worth more than a sheep or camel and screw them camel jockeys.

You are so the fruits of an American education. So tell me did you just switch off your brain when they taught science or just ignore it and hope it went away.

I didn't want to be fed your propaganda.  I wasn't in the mood the the atheist propaganda you are selling.  Your theory of evolution has been dismissed as a deceitful lie that I knew it was.  So what part of your brain did you turn off?

(October 17, 2015 at 10:30 am)Blondie Wrote: Satanism - when it gets to the point of sacrificing animals, raping children, and sacrificing babies, it ain't no better than Islam.  Satan don't care what you do as long as you don't believe in God, he's got ya whether you know it or not.
Buddhism - maybe one for bringing world peace, but the Islamic religion is going to trump this sorry.  Will not be any peace as long as the Muslims are around.
Paganism - I will go along with that.  It is an umbrella term.
Judaism - "You say that they reject their saviour, well Muslims can say the same about you because Mohammed came after Jesus." Well yes they can.  But the thing is Muslims admit Jesus has existed, but Jesus' body can't be found.  Mohammad on the other hand, he died by poison and his body is still sitting in a tomb rotting.  Even Mohammad don't know who or what gave him what he written down.  So you have anything else? 

Pity. You started out pretty well and came over as the rational sort. But this looking down on other religious people, not subscribing to your particular brand of christianity, is condescending at best, despicable at worst.

Maybe reflect a bit on how you think about other people and their believes? See, it's this kind of intolerance and riding the high horse, which makes me lose all respect for certain religious people.

(October 17, 2015 at 10:36 am)abaris Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 10:30 am)Blondie Wrote: Satanism - when it gets to the point of sacrificing animals, raping children, and sacrificing babies, it ain't no better than Islam.  Satan don't care what you do as long as you don't believe in God, he's got ya whether you know it or not.
Buddhism - maybe one for bringing world peace, but the Islamic religion is going to trump this sorry.  Will not be any peace as long as the Muslims are around.
Paganism - I will go along with that.  It is an umbrella term.
Judaism - "You say that they reject their saviour, well Muslims can say the same about you because Mohammed came after Jesus." Well yes they can.  But the thing is Muslims admit Jesus has existed, but Jesus' body can't be found.  Mohammad on the other hand, he died by poison and his body is still sitting in a tomb rotting.  Even Mohammad don't know who or what gave him what he written down.  So you have anything else? 

Pity. You started out pretty well and came over as the rational sort. But this looking down on other religious people, not subscribing to your particular brand of christianity, is condescending at best, despicable at worst.

Maybe reflect a bit on how you think about other people and their believes? See, it's this kind of intolerance and riding the high horse, which makes me lose all respect for certain religious people.

I was trying to point out why I think mine is right and arrive at a conclusion of why it works for me.  Other people it is different.  Some of the things I have stated are just facts and can be backed up with research.  Satanism based on a police education film on how to tell the difference basically between a party among satanists to the radical end of kidnapping children, I am sorry.  I have no clue why someone would want to be part of it.  If you want to rebel or something, there are other ways to do it. Islam: There are passages of the qur'an that does teach them to kill.  It says in the qur'an that Mohammad was in his 50's and his wife was a 9 year old girl.  In Judaism, you had a split too.  One political group during Jesus' day only believed in the Torah which is the first 5 books of the Bible and the other political group believed in the Old Testament. This got worse when Jesus came. This is not about a high horse or intolerance.  Out of all of these religions, the only one I see that really teaches intolerance is Islam and I am only saying that is the Infadel, Christian, and Jew will either convert or die.  That is was ISIS and the crisis is all about in the Middle East.  Christianity are suppose to love everyone, turn the other check, tolerance of others, pray for those who persecute you, and help your neighbor, love your enemies, love your neighbor, treat others how you want to be treated, etc.  People spoil religion by not acting like they should and pushing the world further from any truth they may find, when they are suppose to be here for anyone.

(October 17, 2015 at 10:30 am)Blondie Wrote: If the theories are 100% perfect, why are they still called theories if they are perfect?  Why not intelligent design?  I do think there is micro evolution, but macro-evolution, there is no proof. Monkeys again would be extinct completely if human became from monkeys no.  There is also scientific proof that the universe is younger than what you think based on scientific evidence. There have been rocks proven only to be 40 years old when they were originally thought be hundreds of years old.  Astrologists have found that some stars do not last as long as some of the the other stars and also prove the age of the universe.  Macro evolution theory is full of crap.  There are so much missing information that would prove it.  It is easier to believe in evolution then it is intelligent design.  Let's look at the definition,  a theory is an educated guess. at best.  There is no proof of the big bang because humans simply didn't exist.  Evolution has been dismissed but atheists still demand to teach that crap.  Ice Age theory killing dinosaurs but then scientists can't seem to make up their minds if it was the volcanoes, or comets., or whatever.  The problem with atheists is that they can't seem to get the theories straight and stick to one theory and accept in truth.  Christians and Jews believe the Creation Story therefore believing in Intelligent Design which is so much easier than coming up with educated excuses to not believe.

Theory is the scientific term that is the closest to "fact" you are confusing it with hypothosis.


Intelligent design is not even a hypothesis, it is an incoherent jumble of untestable and desperate "thoughts" thrown together in a nonsense whole. it isn't even wrong.

Quote:The phrase "not even wrong" describes any argument that purports to be scientific but fails at some fundamental level, usually in that it contains a terminal logical fallacy or it cannot be falsified by experiment (i.e. tested with the possibility of being rejected), or cannot be used to make predictions about the natural world.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

Extinction of the dinosaurs probably happened because of the meteor strike with their death coinciding exactly with the creation of a 180 mile crater and a layer of impact debris over the entire world. The KT boundry. There is still some debate because there are other possible causes to which I say.
So what?
If you believe in micro evolution then you believe in marco evolution because THEY ARE THE SAME THING. Small changes lead to big changes over time.
As for the big bang it can be tested for directly, some of the static you get on your TV comes directly from the big bang the universe is expanding and be traced back to its starting point. approximately 14 billion years ago. Have you finished your american education? because I hope you get to learn how wonderful the universe really is and how it is not down to imaginary friend that was invented to fool the gullable.

Note blondie did not mention Pastafarianism, This is because Christians know it is the one true correct belief system.

(October 17, 2015 at 9:59 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 9:42 am)Blondie Wrote: That is why they do not educate their women.  Ignorant people are easier to control.   

Please remember this.

Also answer me this.

Do ignorant people who are easily controlled know that they are ignorant and being controlled?

Second question.

How do you know that you are not ignorant yourself?

You did say that you didn't pay much attention at school.

No, otherwise they would not tolerate being controlled.  Knowledge is power. I would not say ignorant, there are things that I have forgotten or no interest in knowing such as let's say the evolution theory.  I did like genetics, chemistry, biology, and human anatomy and physiology, trig.  I did not care for history, English, and literature.  So it really depended on what the subject really is.

Blondie, is it important to you that atheists don't believe? I don't wish to argue with you about a difference in belief.

(October 17, 2015 at 11:02 am)Blondie Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 9:59 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Please remember this.

Also answer me this.

Do ignorant people who are easily controlled know that they are ignorant and being controlled?

Second question.

How do you know that you are not ignorant yourself?

You did say that you didn't pay much attention at school.

No, otherwise they would not tolerate being controlled.  Knowledge is power. I would not say ignorant, there are things that I have forgotten or no interest in knowing such as let's say the evolution theory.  I did like genetics, chemistry, biology, and human anatomy and physiology, trig.  I did not care for history, English, and literature.  So it really depended on what the subject really is.

 Indeed knowledge is power, It saddens FSM deeply you and your ilk will forsake knowledge, morals,personal responsibility and anything else that prohibits you from doing the mental gymnastics needed to keep the lying to yourselves.

(October 17, 2015 at 10:30 am)Blondie Wrote: [quote pid='1087157' dateline='1445090148']

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(October 17, 2015 at 10:00 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: You are so the fruits of an American education. So tell me did you just switch off your brain when they taught science or just ignore it and hope it went away.

I didn't want to be fed your propaganda.  I wasn't in the mood the the atheist propaganda you are selling.  Your theory of evolution has been dismissed as a deceitful lie that I knew it was.  So what part of your brain did you turn off?
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Evolution is a fact.
Here is one of the worlds most prominent experts on biology saying so.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW1Lpa23mOw

By the way who lied to you saying that it had been dismissed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

Quote:Intelligent design (ID) is the pseudoscientific view[1][2] that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."[3] Educators, philosophers, and the scientific community have demonstrated that ID is a religious argument, a form of creationism which lacks empirical support and offers no testable or tenable hypotheses.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

(October 17, 2015 at 10:59 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 10:30 am)Blondie Wrote: If the theories are 100% perfect, why are they still called theories if they are perfect?  Why not intelligent design?  I do think there is micro evolution, but macro-evolution, there is no proof. Monkeys again would be extinct completely if human became from monkeys no.  There is also scientific proof that the universe is younger than what you think based on scientific evidence. There have been rocks proven only to be 40 years old when they were originally thought be hundreds of years old.  Astrologists have found that some stars do not last as long as some of the the other stars and also prove the age of the universe.  Macro evolution theory is full of crap.  There are so much missing information that would prove it.  It is easier to believe in evolution then it is intelligent design.  Let's look at the definition,  a theory is an educated guess. at best.  There is no proof of the big bang because humans simply didn't exist.  Evolution has been dismissed but atheists still demand to teach that crap.  Ice Age theory killing dinosaurs but then scientists can't seem to make up their minds if it was the volcanoes, or comets., or whatever.  The problem with atheists is that they can't seem to get the theories straight and stick to one theory and accept in truth.  Christians and Jews believe the Creation Story therefore believing in Intelligent Design which is so much easier than coming up with educated excuses to not believe.

Theory is the scientific term that is the closest to "fact" you are confusing it with hypothosis.


Intelligent design is not even a hypothesis, it is an incoherent jumble of untestable and desperate "thoughts" thrown together in a nonsense whole. it isn't even wrong.

Quote:The phrase "not even wrong" describes any argument that purports to be scientific but fails at some fundamental level, usually in that it contains a terminal logical fallacy or it cannot be falsified by experiment (i.e. tested with the possibility of being rejected), or cannot be used to make predictions about the natural world.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

Extinction of the dinosaurs probably happened because of the meteor strike with their death coinciding exactly with the creation of a 180 mile crater and a layer of impact debris over the entire world. The KT boundry. There is still some debate because there are other possible causes to which I say.
So what?
If you believe in micro evolution then you believe in marco evolution because THEY ARE THE SAME THING. Small changes lead to big changes over time.
As for the big bang it can be tested for directly, some of the static you get on your TV comes directly from the big bang the universe is expanding and be traced back to its starting point. approximately 14 billion years ago. Have you finished your american education? because I hope you get to learn how wonderful the universe really is and how it is not down to imaginary friend that was invented to fool the gullable.

the·o·ry
/ˈTHēərē/ noun
1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained "Darwin's theory of evolution". 
 
A system of ideas.  Ideas are not facts. 

i·de·a
/īˈdēə/noun

• 1. a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action "they don't think it's a very good idea" synonyms: meaning, significance, sense, import, essence, ... more
  
• 2. the aim or purpose
  

Oxford Dictionary


Wikipedia is not a credible source.  Even though the person who put in that article may not be wrong, it is the fact anyone can go in and type anything that they want to. 

Intelligent Design does not need an explanation.  Theories have to be explained and accepted.  Even at that, they will never be fact.