Good luck with arguing the finer points with someone staying willfully ignorant. It's like water on a teflon pan.

(October 17, 2015 at 5:10 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 9:30 am)Blondie Wrote:   Something was there to start it. 

How did this being start it all if it cannot create energy or matter?

Exactly. If the alternative explanation for the whole range of scientific investigations is basically "magic", then sorry but the alphabet blocks are over there.

(October 17, 2015 at 5:07 pm)abaris Wrote: Why are you after this ignoramus anyway? (No offense to our member, of course) Fundamentally ignorant persons can be a bit of a nuisance, but if you're out to ban every uninformed idiot, you have your work cut out for you. Also, I see no reason to ban an idiot for being an idiot.

If this turns out to be a Poe or a sock, it's bye the bye anyway.

I don't consider him to be merely an ignorant person.

He is clearly a troll and only here to disrupt. Unless you think he genuinely believes he is the Son of God?

He's obviously only here to cause trouble... I understand there's no way to prove that but I'm just saying that it's a shame that there isn't a way.

(October 17, 2015 at 5:18 pm)Evie Wrote: He is clearly a troll and only here to disrupt. Unless you think he genuinely believes he is the Son of God?

This Blondie character did that? Wasn't that brentsomewhat, can't remember every drop in the flood of idiocy.

(October 17, 2015 at 11:44 am)IATIA Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 11:35 am)Blondie Wrote: Yes I said satanism.  It is a blunt slap in God's face that a Satanist rejects Him.  The God of the Bible is exactly of who He is.  Now Lucifer was the Arch Angel of Worship.  When  Lucifer was kicked out, he then became Satan and a 1/3 of the stars fell with him.  Stars represent the fallen angels who have became Satan's band of demons.  This is all described in Isaiah and Revelation. Now the symbols.  The upside down cross with the broken pieces is the sign of rejection of Jesus. What I don't get is Satanists claim it, but the Apostle Peter was crucified upside down.  The peace sign that was part of the hippie movement in the 1960's is a sign of rebellion.

These two websites is where I got it from. 

http://exposingsatanism.org/showthread.p...f-Satanism

Other than reference to a ridiculously biased and delusional website, you have failed to address any of my comments.

As to the peace sign of rebellion.  Hell yeah!  Rebellion against war.  You have a problem with that?

Two of them were youtube videos.  Rebellion is rebellion.  I do not care if it was war, government, or against your mama.  I don't care. The 60's was before my time anyway.  So I could care less. 

Just because you don't like a Christian site does not mean that they are wrong on the Satanist's symbols.

(October 17, 2015 at 6:15 pm)abaris Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 5:18 pm)Evie Wrote: He is clearly a troll and only here to disrupt. Unless you think he genuinely believes he is the Son of God?

This Blondie character did that? Wasn't that brentsomewhat, can't remember every drop in the flood of idiocy.

Ah, misunderstanding completely, it was the JBrentonK guy I was talking about.

I was saying it is a pity it's difficult to define the rules in such a way to prevent people like JBrentonK from clearly only being here to disrupt the forums.

I'm not saying that of Blondie at all. He/she may annoy me a bit but I totally wasn't calling him/her a troll.

(October 17, 2015 at 5:10 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:

(October 17, 2015 at 9:30 am)Blondie Wrote: matter is neither created or destroyed.  Therefore you can't make something out of nothing.#

If matter can be neither created nor destroyed then you don't need to make something out of nothing. It means that the universe has always existed. The Big Bang was just one particular state and we do not know what happened before the Big Bang.

(October 17, 2015 at 9:30 am)Blondie Wrote:   Something was there to start it. 

How did this being start it all if it cannot create energy or matter?

You can't create energy or matter so therefore what you call as this being has always existed.  Given the scientific meaning of energy and matter, you answered your own question.  The video that you tried to send has been blocked in my country.  

(October 17, 2015 at 9:30 am)Blondie Wrote: Intelligent design. 

Like parasitic wasps? Ebola? Men having nipples? Birth deformities?  Ticks giving us Lymes disease?

Where is the evidence for no Odin, for no Isis, for no Zeus?

It comes down to the LACK of any evidence for any of those beings. In the fact that archaeological evidence - evidence we actually DO have- contradicts many of the claims of the 'holy' books.

And there is the fact that the books the

Yep, burden of proof guys, burden of proof. You claim god, onus is on you.

Stimbo

(October 17, 2015 at 11:43 am)Blondie Wrote: Yeah you first.  Where is your missing link for macro evolution?  Why are there still monkeys?  Wouldn't all monkeys be extinct since they have no use on earth anymore since their human counter parts are here?    Gravity exist.  Please show me I am at least communicating to a half way intelligent person.

Yeah, you're getting my bill for a new irony meter.

If that is what you want to do.  For evolution to be possible, all monkeys, gorillas, etc would be extinct.  Mother nature as atheists would say would no longer have  any use for these creatures.  My self image is that I am a more supreme being than monkeys so no I did not evolve from monkeys.  So therefore macro-evolution is bullcrap.  Micro-evolution, however, I will go along with because every creature adapts to its environment. 

Men re-write religion to suit their needs.  Hence the different splits of religions.