(October 18, 2015 at 9:53 am)Blondie Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 9:42 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Nobody gives a shit what you think, you cunt. ^_^ stick to your fairy tales and childish make believe, reality is clearly too much for you.

So you have reduced yourself to name calling which proves you to be ignorant as well as close-minded and maybe I will give you the benefit of the doubt as an educated idiot.  My classmates came up with so much better than calling me a cunt.  Really?  Is that the best you got?  Believing in something you can't see seems to be too complicated for you. After all someone believes in the spaghetti monster on here.  As far as fairy tales, etc. goes, that is the only thing you have to say to someone with my beliefs.  That is so original.  Can't you be more creative than that?  Kids today can come up with better lines than you.

No you just are a stupid, deluded, cunt. Could be the best or worse insult, could be the most creative one of the most run of the mill, but it's irrelevant when it's factual. And your beliefs really are childish fairy tales. And nobody believes in the FSM. Here's something that might enlighten your retarded ass: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody

Being called an idiot by an idiot, doesn't really bother me mate. ^_^ go bore someone else, you daft cunt.

You absolutely can be, Blondie.  We have a habit of associating our proficiency in one area with general proficiency.  However, you might be a brilliant biologist, for example.....but a poor critical thinker.  

Reading your comments, and as others have already mentioned - you don't seem to have any objections to evolutionary theory.  You think you do...because you've been told that you do by a person or institution you respect.  Your knowledge of biology, your proficiency in this (or other areas in your life) isn't what failed you, in this instance.

I took a class at WVSC when I was 11, after a special program the state had instituted in the 80s for kids who scored genius-level on an IQ test and then made a certain score on the SAT. (I chose a computer programming course, and got an A.) My family was living in Cross Lanes, outside of Charleston, for a couple of years because my dad was assigned to the Union Carbide plant in Institute, WV.

(October 18, 2015 at 9:58 am)Pandæmonium Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 9:53 am)Blondie Wrote: So you have reduced yourself to name calling which proves you to be ignorant as well as close-minded and maybe I will give you the benefit of the doubt as an educated idiot.  My classmates came up with so much better than calling me a cunt.  Really?  Is that the best you got?  Believing in something you can't see seems to be too complicated for you. After all someone believes in the spaghetti monster on here.  As far as fairy tales, etc. goes, that is the only thing you have to say to someone with my beliefs.  That is so original.  Can't you be more creative than that?  Kids today can come up with better lines than you.

No you just are a stupid, deluded, cunt. Could be the best or worse insult, could be the most creative one of the most run of the ill, but it's irrelevant when it's factual.  And your beliefs really are childish fairy tales. And nobody believes in the FSM. Here's something that might enlighten your retarded ass: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody

Being called an idiot by an idiot, doesn't really bother me mate. ^_^ go bore someone else, you daft cunt.

Geezus, Pandaemonium, tell us how you really  feel!

Sick and tired of these fucking morons thinking they've got something special or unique to say, as if we haven't heard it all a million times before.

Stupid shit for brains is a fucking unique little butterfly. Yeah yeah, we get it. Good for them. Sure they'll get a little gold star from their imaginary sky fairy for fighting the corner of their omni faceted God that can't even convince lowly humans that it's real. Real fucking impressive.

(October 18, 2015 at 8:57 am)abaris Wrote: I don't know why I'm even bothering, but here's a list of human body parts we no longer need. But they're clear evidence of the body evolving over time.

http://www.smashinglists.com/10-remnants...r-require/

Thanks abaris. Some people have assumptions that just because their view is Christian mostly that people are closed-minded.  I am not one of those people.  I am just curious as the next person.  If we did evolve, then we did. If we didn't, then we didn't. Since I listed my view as Christian and like I said in one of my other posts, God never said how He created the universe, etc.  Anything is possible.  I am not that closed-minded that whatever you or anyone else wants to send me on the subject, I am going to automatically dismiss.  I really don't have a problem opening and reading it regardless if you have no belief to believing in the cookie monster.  I have not kept up on anything about evolution since I have been out of school only because I really don't care.  If you want to send me more websites or anyone else does, I really will take the time to read them.  I have no problem with that on a serious note.  My views may be Christian, but that does not mean that I completely dismiss science just like atheists completely dismiss Christianity in general.

He didn't?  Anything........?  What was all that business in Genesis?  Is it possible then, that he didn't create the universe at all?

Quote:Why the tone? There is no sense in this. Your the one that is so quick to judge it and dismiss God.

The tone is because your comments about leprosy are some of the most stunningly ill-informed things I've heard in a long, long time. There is NO connection between bathing frequency and contracting leprosy.

You have the internet at your fingertips. This is inarguably the most comprehensive information retrieval system ever devised by human beings. Has it never occurred to you to check things before you post them here and make yourself look like a dolt?

Boru

(October 18, 2015 at 9:59 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I took a class at WVSC when I was 11, after a special program the state had instituted in the 80s for kids who scored genius-level on an IQ test and then made a certain score on the SAT. (I chose a computer programming course, and got an A.) My family was living in Cross Lanes, outside of Charleston, for a couple of years because my dad was assigned to the Union Carbide plant in Institute, WV.

Cool.  I know where those places are.  Both of my grand-fathers worked for Carbide and my uncle did work for Carbide.  They have been bought out by Dow Chemical now and parts of it have been closed down now due to government regulations, etc.  They are not as big as it use to be.

What concerns me more, Blondie, is that you're repeating information from the Institute for Creation Research (now called the Discovery Institute, to hide their nature when they were trying to repackage Creationism as "Intelligent Design" to slip it into schools, since they knew Creationism in raw form would fall afoul of the 1st Amendment's separation clause), an organization quite literally dedicated to spreading horrible misinformation about science because they think it serves their religion to Lie For Jesus™, as we call it.

They're amazingly good at crafting arguments that sound reasonable to a layperson, even a reasonably-well-read layperson, but which are not remotely solid if you know the actual facts behind what they're arguing. I'm not insulting you by saying this; it is their entire mission to fool even intelligent people by playing to your presuppositions and your desire to see the Biblical stories confirmed. As long as they can make it appear there's still a high degree of doubt about the scientific consensus, they win, because people will default to the stories of their social upbringing, the religious story.

Our problem isn't that you're Christian. There are many Christians (including, as I often point out here, my fiancee, who is both a Methodist Christian, right now doing her thing as a Sunday School teacher no less, and also an evolutionary biologist in the field of genetics) who understand the real facts behind evolution. When I see people who repeat the garbage you have swallowed, it makes me extremely sad and even angry, because I know the types of people who are behind spreading that misinformation. They misquote scientists to make them say things they didn't say, they misrepresent articles so people who read popular scientific writings/articles get the wrong impression about what science says, and they try to keep people from thinking that people in my field are more than a bunch of confused atheists making stuff up so we don't have to believe in Jesus. I know that they are deliberately lying because of the way they "quote-mine" scientists out of context, to make them say things it is clear they are not saying if you read the very next sentence/paragraph they wrote. An example is where they quote Darwin as saying "this is a problem for my theory that is hard to explain", while ignoring that the entire rest of the page is dedicated to explaining that very thing, and he was only saying "a problem" as a way of spelling out likely objections to his big idea before explaining the answers to those objections. That sort of misrepresentation can only be done deliberately and willfully, by very dishonest people with an agenda.

It makes me angry because there's no reason for this conflict, or for our nation falling behind in science education, except for their ideologies... and it is very difficult for me not to take the anger out on those who have swallowed their lies. I have to remind myself that you think you are being honest, and are not yourself deliberately lying to me.

Others are less kind about it, because it's hard not to take it personally when we are barraged with the same (stuuuuuupid) arguments, time and time again, and we spend so much time explaining to people that, no, cats don't give birth to dogs and science never claimed that... no, there's no difference between micro- and macro-evolution except the number of generations involved... no, there IS evidence of human-chimp common ancestry that is beyond question... no, we do not say we "came from rocks"... etc etc. Constantly!

So I ask you to forgive those who have been short-tempered about it. It takes the patience of a saint, or a teacher, to be able to explain the same bad arguments time and time again without thinking that the whole culture of people who buy such obvious (once you learn the real facts of science, it will be obvious to you, too) nonsense are a bunch of morons.