Um... I just watched those videos... there's nothing in there that says he's a Muslim. The videos are blatantly dishonest in their presentations. For instance, when it highlights where he says "I am one of them", to imply he's saying he's a Muslim, it ignores what he actually says. I'll highlight the relevant parts of the quotation they're manipulating to make him say what he didn't say, so I can put it back in proper context:

President Obama Wrote:The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country — I know, because I am one of them.

I’m a Christian, but my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and at the fall of dusk.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/truth-o...oom-floor/

Mentioning the Holy Qur'an isn't any weirder than an atheist mentioning the Holy Bible. He is showing respect for nearly five million Americans who are active Muslims, and millions more who have a family member or dear friend who is a Muslim, as a President in a pluralistic, multi-religious society should do. He is also explaining to Americans that he knows from personal experience that there is a difference between the fundamentalist nutballs who attacked our country, and who kill their fellow Muslims more than they kill anyone else, and the normal, everyday Muslim.

As with the ring, people with agendas will bend the truth, when it suits them, and are less concerned with facts than they are with convincing others to agree with their prejudices.

I mean, seriously, the First Lady is a man as a serious claim!? You're telling me that a man was allowed sign up for a wedding certificate on Oct. 3, 1992, at Trinity United Church in Chicago? To put on this dress and stand in front of the altar?

(October 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Blondie Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 8:23 pm)ForsakenHeretic Wrote: Did Blondie really just call Obama a gay Muslim? Please, PLEASE, don't tell me we have one of these types to deal with.

Proof by evolution that Michelle is a man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eolGXlKttzE

By his own words, he states he is a Muslim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3K1V6fcgE

Now, you decide.

I've decided:  Not only are you promoting anti science but you're spreading conspiracy nonsense.  That makes you a fucking idiot and, as far as I'm concerned, a troll

(October 18, 2015 at 9:54 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 4:54 am)Blondie Wrote: Here is one forum part I can discuss all day long.  I can't stand the POS cops one bit.  All pigs are only good for drinking coffee while dunking their donuts and seeing how much money they can rip off citizens of any country all around the world.  Cops are suppose to serve and protect my butt.

I do not like big government.  I am a part of the republican party, but the republicans are useless and so are the democRATS.  Both parties are corrupt just like the freaking cops. That mooslim gay thing in the White House in my country is the biggest POS I have ever seen.

Since you're a Christian who curses his leader you're going to the lake of fire for eternity.  Exodus 22:28.

Since we are quoting Scripture now, another verse says King James Bible

Psalms 109:8 Let his days be few; and  let another take his office.

(October 18, 2015 at 6:42 pm)Blondie Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm)Beccs Wrote: Oh, we already knew you were a rethuglican.  It was obvious by your anti-science nonsense you keep spouting.

And it's confirmed by repeating lies about your president.

Fortunately, facts always stand up to rethuglican lies, despite the ignorance of the low brow followers.

You have not read enough of my posts to even know what you are talking about. Who said anything about anti-science?  I never said that I was anti-science. I had more science and math classes then what I ever had English and history.  My major was pre-med biology major in college at a secular institution.  Just because I don't accept that we and apes share a common ancestor, does not mean that science is completely wrong.  Oh, no. Obama is not my president.  The people who voted for this clown do not have a brain or one ounce of sense.  I did not vote for him in the first election and not in the second election. If he were to run for a third term, etc, I still would not vote for that clown.  You love attacking people who do not agree.

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(October 18, 2015 at 5:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote: This is why our country can't have nice things.

What is the one positive thing (JUST ONE) that he has done for America? 

He spends money faster than a drunken sailor.  Would you like to see America fall? He sure is working on that one.

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(October 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Their religious upbringing conditions them to not let facts get in the way of beliefs.

On the religious upbringing, why are there scientists in the Christian community?

You spout creationism: that's anti-science.

Kinda glad you didn't go beyond pre-med.  Ben Carson wannabes we can do without.

I don't attack people who disagree with me, just those who repeatedly spout nonsense.

(October 18, 2015 at 10:42 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Blondie Wrote: Proof by evolution that Michelle is a man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eolGXlKttzE

By his own words, he states he is a Muslim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3K1V6fcgE

Now, you decide.

I've decided:  Not only are you promoting anti science but you're spreading conspiracy nonsense.  That makes you a fucking idiot and, as far as I'm concerned, a troll

Consider me a troll.  Don't bother me any.  Now besides the ring, any proof to disprove this?   How do you know what government does behind your back or lie about?

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(October 18, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 6:42 pm)Blondie Wrote: You have not read enough of my posts to even know what you are talking about. Who said anything about anti-science?  I never said that I was anti-science. I had more science and math classes then what I ever had English and history.  My major was pre-med biology major in college at a secular institution.  Just because I don't accept that we and apes share a common ancestor, does not mean that science is completely wrong.  Oh, no. Obama is not my president.  The people who voted for this clown do not have a brain or one ounce of sense.  I did not vote for him in the first election and not in the second election. If he were to run for a third term, etc, I still would not vote for that clown.  You love attacking people who do not agree.

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What is the one positive thing (JUST ONE) that he has done for America? 

He spends money faster than a drunken sailor.  Would you like to see America fall? He sure is working on that one.

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On the religious upbringing, why are there scientists in the Christian community?

You spout creationism: that's anti-science.

Kinda glad you didn't go beyond pre-med.  Ben Carson wannabes we can do without.

I don't attack people who disagree with me, just those who repeatedly spout nonsense.

How do you know that creationism is beyond science?  Were you there to witness it do discredit it?  Creationism just explains the order that things were created, but doesn't explain how? How do you know that God did not create it by using the big bang other then dismissing Him as a farce or fairy tale?  Were you there?  As far as not going beyond pre-med, I am still in the healthcare industry.  No I am not a Ben Carson wanna-be, but kinda funny he is a brain surgeon so he can't be too stupid.  You can't perform the brain surgeries he has done, can you?  Didn't think so.

What I posted wasn't enough for you?

(October 18, 2015 at 10:48 pm)Blondie Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 10:42 pm)Beccs Wrote: I've decided:  Not only are you promoting anti science but you're spreading conspiracy nonsense.  That makes you a fucking idiot and, as far as I'm concerned, a troll

Consider me a troll.  Don't bother me any.  Now besides the ring, any proof to disprove this?   How do you know what government does behind your back or lie about?

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(October 18, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Beccs Wrote: You spout creationism: that's anti-science.

Kinda glad you didn't go beyond pre-med.  Ben Carson wannabes we can do without.

I don't attack people who disagree with me, just those who repeatedly spout nonsense.

How do you know that creationism is beyond science?  Were you there to witness it do discredit it?  Creationism just explains the order that things were created, but doesn't explain how? How do you know that God did not create it by using the big bang other then dismissing Him as a farce or fairy tale?  Were you there?  As far as not going beyond pre-med, I am still in the healthcare industry.  No I am not a Ben Carson wanna-be, but kinda funny he is a brain surgeon so he can't be too stupid.  You can't perform the brain surgeries he has done, can you?  Didn't think so.

I didn't say "beyond" science.  I said it's anti-science.  Once again the "were you there? bullshit.  Were YOU there to see creation by your god or are you depending on the claims of a contradictory and discredited book?  Evolution is a science with overwhelming supportive evidence.  Creationism is a claim with exactly NO evidence.

Didn't say Carson was stupid, just ignorant.

Could I perform brain surgeries?  Not as well as he can.  But then, I'm a cardiac surgeon.

Would you like to try again?

(October 18, 2015 at 10:56 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: What I posted wasn't enough for you?

What you posted is fine.  I would like to do some more research on my own as I have been away from the whole evolution deal, etc.  Thanks again RocketSurgeon.

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(October 18, 2015 at 11:02 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 10:48 pm)Blondie Wrote: Consider me a troll.  Don't bother me any.  Now besides the ring, any proof to disprove this?   How do you know what government does behind your back or lie about?

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How do you know that creationism is beyond science?  Were you there to witness it do discredit it?  Creationism just explains the order that things were created, but doesn't explain how? How do you know that God did not create it by using the big bang other then dismissing Him as a farce or fairy tale?  Were you there?  As far as not going beyond pre-med, I am still in the healthcare industry.  No I am not a Ben Carson wanna-be, but kinda funny he is a brain surgeon so he can't be too stupid.  You can't perform the brain surgeries he has done, can you?  Didn't think so.

I didn't say "beyond" science.  I said it's anti-science.  Once again the "were you there? bullshit.  Were YOU there to see creation by your god or are you depending on the claims of a contradictory and discredited book?  Evolution is a science with overwhelming supportive evidence.  Creationism is a claim with exactly NO evidence.

Didn't say Carson was stupid, just ignorant.

Could I perform brain surgeries?  Not as well as he can.  But them, I'm a cardiac surgeon.

Would you like to try again?

sci·ence
/ˈsīəns/
noun
1. the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Since this definition states "and experiment", can you re-create the experiment of evolution?  Simple answer is no you can't because you are a human.  No human can re-create by experiment the evolution process. 

I was already fully aware that more doctors are atheists then the doctors who believe in something like Ben Carson.  Now how can Dr. Ben Carson have the same level education as you and learned the same things as you had to learn, but have two conflicting viewpoints?

(October 18, 2015 at 11:10 pm)Blondie Wrote: sci·ence
/ˈsīəns/
noun
1. the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Since this definition states "and experiment", can you re-create the experiment of evolution?  Simple answer is no you can't because you are a human.  No human can re-create by experiment the evolution process. 

I was already fully aware that more doctors are atheists then the doctors who believe in something like Ben Carson.  Now how can Dr. Ben Carson have the same level education as you and learned the same things as you had to learn, but have two conflicting viewpoints?

I think you posted in the wrong thread, here, Blondie.

This is the "how do you claim Michelle Obama is a man when she's wearing a wedding dress and standing in front of a preacher who had to sign her marriage license, in Trinity Church in Illinois in 1992, when to marry a man was illegal until very recently?" thread.

This is the "how in the world can you claim President Obama is a Muslim when he has gone to a Christian Church all his adult life, has said repeatedly that he is a Christain, and the people who're making the claims about his 'real' religion are willing to stoop to misquoting him in obvious ways and manipulating photos?" thread. 

The evolution thread is waiting for you, with a fresh couple of posts of mine, if you'd prefer to talk about that rather than right-wing conspiracy theories.

He's not a Muslim. He simply isn't hateful of them, because he lived some of his early childhood years in a country that was majority-Muslim, and knows they're not the way most Americans see them; in trying to educate Americans about it, they instead reacted with fear and derision, to our national shame.

Not that it should matter what faith he is or isn't, when it comes to leading a country that has an anti-establisment clause in its Constitution.

(October 18, 2015 at 11:10 pm)Blondie Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 10:56 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: What I posted wasn't enough for you?

What you posted is fine.  I would like to do some more research on my own as I have been away from the whole evolution deal, etc.  Thanks again RocketSurgeon.

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(October 18, 2015 at 11:02 pm)Beccs Wrote: I didn't say "beyond" science.  I said it's anti-science.  Once again the "were you there? bullshit.  Were YOU there to see creation by your god or are you depending on the claims of a contradictory and discredited book?  Evolution is a science with overwhelming supportive evidence.  Creationism is a claim with exactly NO evidence.

Didn't say Carson was stupid, just ignorant.

Could I perform brain surgeries?  Not as well as he can.  But them, I'm a cardiac surgeon.

Would you like to try again?

sci·ence
/ˈsīəns/
noun
1. the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Since this definition states "and experiment", can you re-create the experiment of evolution?  Simple answer is no you can't because you are a human.  No human can re-create by experiment the evolution process. 

I was already fully aware that more doctors are atheists then the doctors who believe in something like Ben Carson.  Now how can Dr. Ben Carson have the same level education as you and learned the same things as you had to learn, but have two conflicting viewpoints?

Evolution in laboratory conditions:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1...n-the-lab/

Don't try to say "micro/macro evolution".  Those aren't scientific terms.  Those are terms invented by creationists to confuse their followers.  And it works.

I guess you're wrong.

Once again, I didn't say Ben Carson is stupid, just ignorant or, worse, lying to get the support of the republican base.