The title of this thread may sound weird, but that's my intention with this thread. I am going to ask you peeps that question. So without further ado, give me proof of your claim that you are an atheist, proof that you can believe in no God, proof that you are not just basing your opinion on dust, or dirt, or soot. Proof that you are an atheist too.... Because I don't believe that your "atheism" was not created by human eyes, human ears, human stupidity.... I believe, to the contrary, that your atheism was created around the 1900's, that it's a new upstart to the world of "fiction"; that you have never been more than a disbeliever.....

I believe that you do not believe in God, can not be contributive, cannot base your beliefs on your acts and can not act positively as a result. You cannot give to charity (or at least I wouldn't want you to), you cannot base your beliefs on the faith in your beliefs which beg for your positive contribution to the world. The world begs you for love.   Give it or else!

I also believe that you are not an atheist, however, and this thread will prove weather I am right or wrong. Are you an atheist? Or are you just coming to that conclusion due to some sorting out of the theories? Well, the good news is, if I'm right, and there is no proof for atheism (and all of it's bad fundamentalisms), you can still be a valuable part of your beliefs. All you'd have to do is act them, and then again, that is all you'd be forced to do. To start being contributive. To start a conversation and contribute to it's positive gain, to converse with friends or neighbors and be an actual, productive citizen during the process....

So, are you an atheist, or do you just believe that you are?

Good grief, wasn't one thread of this idiot's insanity enough?

No idea. I think I need to employ the scientific method and determine whether I am an atheist or not.

First I need to define what is and is not an atheist. Then I need to figure out how to measure myself in terms of these qualities. Then I can look at the results and draw conclusions based on the evidence.

Atheist = Has no belief in any god
Not atheist = believes in a god or gods.

Can't see anything else relevant to that description.

How can I determine whether I believe in a god?

I could ask myself I suppose. But then I might be lying to myself. And how would I know? I suppose I could ask myself in front of the mirror and judge my body language. Or I could observe myself to see if I regularly go to church, pray, perform any ritual, show signs of discomfort from blaspheming, sin etc.

Or I could ask an impartial observer who knows me if I have ever done any of those things and that will save a lot of time.

Damn, I just remembered. I was cleaning my colander the other day marvelling how clean it was. I think I might follow the FSM.

(October 19, 2015 at 11:03 am)JBrentonK Wrote: [...]So, are you an atheist, or do you just believe that you are?

(October 19, 2015 at 11:05 am)JesusHChrist Wrote:

Yes.

So, am I the only one who thinks this guy is using some weird, arcane other definition for, like, every term he's using here?

I prefer 80 proof, but other atheists may disagree.

It's just an assembly of the usual apologist crap, using weird wording. Been there, done that. And as everything apoologist, it misses the mark by a lightyear, since it argues from a non existing position.

Thankfully God is not a non existing proposition.