Look at the flowers, Lizzie!
Once you shoot a kid, killing other folks is a downhill ride I suppose.

(October 19, 2015 at 1:57 am)Kitan Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 1:55 am)Thena323 Wrote: Carol is starting to become one of my favorite characters. 
Gotta love that ruthless pragmatism. She just doesn't fuck around.

I have to agree.

I saw how strong she was becoming last season, and she continues to impress me.

Last season?  She's been on this trajectory since season 3!

(October 19, 2015 at 2:09 am)Thena323 Wrote: Look at the flowers, Lizzie!
Once you shoot a kid, killing other folks is a downhill ride I suppose.

LOL  Truth.


I enjoyed this episode a lot.  I wasn't sure I liked the premiere; it actually kind of felt slow and somewhat predictable until the horn thing at the end, and in retrospect it seemed like a set-up for the much more awesome second episode.

I didn't like the "getting to know you" aspect of the new guys and the whole questioning Rick thing (kinda felt like a rehashing of the Glenn storyline from last season where they totally screw up the run to the computer warehouse).  You knew they'd figure out that Rick's group was right all along, and while walkers are a significant threat in this world still (especially in those numbers) they are nowhere near as scary and unpredictable as people are and in that respect I just liked the story line with the Wolves more.

Premiere is a 7/10, episode two is 9/10 (rated for enjoyability).

I've finally gotten caught up on TWD after binge watching season five over the last two weekends. One thing about the premise of the show that kinda bugs me... Why haven't the walking dead simply rotted out by now? They've shown full blown human skeletons lying about the country side, but by some magic the animated corpses don't rot as fast. They've never offered an explanation for this and it really doesn't make sense.

(October 19, 2015 at 10:53 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: I've finally gotten caught up on TWD after binge watching season five over the last two weekends. One thing about the premise of the show that kinda bugs me... Why haven't the walking dead simply rotted out by now? They've shown full blown human skeletons lying about the country side, but by some magic the animated corpses don't rot as fast. They've never offered an explanation for this and it really doesn't make sense.

It appears that the corpses featured are in varying states of decay, depending on when they they died and other external factors. That's why the recently turned seem to be more agile and are noticeably faster than the walkers in advanced stages of decomposition.

Some walkers flesh seem to disintegrate into soupy goop, when pressure or force is applied to it or other body parts, including their skulls. I remember a reference regarding that, though I can't remember if it was the show or book. Rick is explaining to Carl that a particular weapon would not work well if a walker had been recently turned.

The very first zombie Rick encounters in the first episode (the half lady) was basically dormant and almost completely rotted, kind of like the one that bit Hershel at the prison.

(October 19, 2015 at 10:53 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: I've finally gotten caught up on TWD after binge watching season five over the last two weekends. One thing about the premise of the show that kinda bugs me... Why haven't the walking dead simply rotted out by now? They've shown full blown human skeletons lying about the country side, but by some magic the animated corpses don't rot as fast. They've never offered an explanation for this and it really doesn't make sense.

Maybe this is how the show/comics will end? All the walkers just rot away with too few living killed to replenish the kinds of numbers needed to keep civilization from starting to reform.

Otherwise I agree with Thena: there are walkers in various states of decay. The fresher ones were the recently killed.

(October 19, 2015 at 11:27 pm)Thena323 Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 10:53 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: I've finally gotten caught up on TWD after binge watching season five over the last two weekends. One thing about the premise of the show that kinda bugs me... Why haven't the walking dead simply rotted out by now? They've shown full blown human skeletons lying about the country side, but by some magic the animated corpses don't rot as fast. They've never offered an explanation for this and it really doesn't make sense.

It appears that the corpses featured are in varying states of decay, depending on when they they died and other external factors. That's why the recently turned seem to be more agile and are noticeably faster than the walkers in advanced stages of decomposition.

Some walkers flesh seem to disintegrate into soupy goop, when pressure or force is applied to it or other body parts, including their skulls. I remember a reference regarding that, though I can't remember if it was the show or book. Rick is explaining to Carl that a particular weapon would not work well if a walker had been recently turned.

The very first zombie Rick encounters in the first episode (the half lady) was basically dormant and almost completely rotted, kind of like the one that bit Hershel at the prison.

I get that not all the walkers were created at the same time. But, it's still been (at least) a year, story time and Most of the turned came in the first weeks, as shown in "Fear the Walking Dead" and implied in "The Walking Dead." But, there are walkers by the thousands everywhere they turn. The walker population should be dwindling as decomposition wipes them out, but there seems to be as many as there were in the first season, less the odd few killed by survivors.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the show, but the walkers resilience doesn't make sense.

Does it make sense that people die and then get reanimated as walking corpses who seek human flesh to eat?

I agree that it's problematic, but if I'm expected to buy the zombie thing, I'm okay accepting delayed decomposition.

(October 20, 2015 at 12:26 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote: Does it make sense that people die and then get reanimated as walking corpses who seek human flesh to eat?  

I agree that it's problematic, but if I'm expected to buy the zombie thing, I'm okay accepting delayed decomposition.

You make a very good point. The suspension of disbelief about delayed decomposition pales in comparison to the suspension of disbelief about dead people getting up and attacking people.

Like I said, I enjoy the show.

(October 19, 2015 at 11:47 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 11:27 pm)Thena323 Wrote:

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It appears that the corpses featured are in varying states of decay, depending on when they they died and other external factors. That's why the recently turned seem to be more agile and are noticeably faster than the walkers in advanced stages of decomposition.

Some walkers flesh seem to disintegrate into soupy goop, when pressure or force is applied to it or other body parts, including their skulls. I remember a reference regarding that, though I can't remember if it was the show or book. Rick is explaining to Carl that a particular weapon would not work well if a walker had been recently turned.

The very first zombie Rick encounters in the first episode (the half lady) was basically dormant and almost completely rotted, kind of like the one that bit Hershel at the prison.

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I get that not all the walkers were created at the same time. But, it's still been (at least) a year, story time and  Most of the turned came in the first weeks, as shown in "Fear the Walking Dead" and implied in "The Walking Dead." But, there are walkers by the thousands everywhere they turn. The walker population should be dwindling as decomposition wipes them out, but there seems to be as many as there were in the first season, less the odd few killed by survivors.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the show, but the walkers resilience doesn't make sense.

You're right.  At some point it would have to mean that there are a lot more survivors than what's implied, in order to explain hordes of the walking dead traipsing through town with regularity. But would the show be nearly as good?

(October 20, 2015 at 12:34 am)Thena323 Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 11:47 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: I get that not all the walkers were created at the same time. But, it's still been (at least) a year, story time and  Most of the turned came in the first weeks, as shown in "Fear the Walking Dead" and implied in "The Walking Dead." But, there are walkers by the thousands everywhere they turn. The walker population should be dwindling as decomposition wipes them out, but there seems to be as many as there were in the first season, less the odd few killed by survivors.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the show, but the walkers resilience doesn't make sense.

You're right.  At some point it would have to mean that there are a lot more survivors than what's implied, in order to explain hordes of the walking dead traipsing through town with regularity. But would the show be nearly as good?

The sad part is, they could have addressed it in the episode where they visit the CDC. They could have used the doc there who was studying the walkers (spoiler /spoiler) to explain the mechanism by which the walkers don't decay as fast as a regular corpse.