(November 6, 2015 at 10:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:This is a story that is a guy 20 years ago making an unresearched statement and Politico made a mountain out of a mole hill.

Politico did not tell him to put it in his book.  All they did was check it out and find him lying. 

That's what I've been saying---he's not lying---at least from my experience with the same, he's not. He probably was offered what he thought was a scholarship. Politico is making the inaccurate leap that one needs to apply to a service academy to be promised an appointment. I was promised an appointment without ever having considered the Naval Academy. After that one meeting with a Blue & Gold officer, I would have said (and did say) that I was offered a full ride scholarship to the Naval Academy.

(November 6, 2015 at 10:57 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(November 6, 2015 at 10:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Politico did not tell him to put it in his book.  All they did was check it out and find him lying. 

That's what I've been saying---he's not lying---at least from my experience with the same, he's not. He probably was offered what he thought was a scholarship. Politico is making the inaccurate leap that one needs to apply to a service academy to be promised an appointment. I was promised an appointment without ever having considered the Naval Academy. After that one meeting with a Blue & Gold officer, I would have said (and did say) that I was offered a full ride scholarship to the Naval Academy.

The circumstances might well fall out as you've described, and no harm nor foul laid -- but claiming that the offer came from the highest-ranking general in a meeting that can not have happened is certainly corrosive to his credibility.

(November 6, 2015 at 11:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(November 6, 2015 at 10:57 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: That's what I've been saying---he's not lying---at least from my experience with the same, he's not. He probably was offered what he thought was a scholarship. Politico is making the inaccurate leap that one needs to apply to a service academy to be promised an appointment. I was promised an appointment without ever having considered the Naval Academy. After that one meeting with a Blue & Gold officer, I would have said (and did say) that I was offered a full ride scholarship to the Naval Academy.

The circumstances might well fall out as you've described, and no harm nor foul laid -- but claiming that the offer came from the highest-ranking  general in a meeting that can not have happened is certainly corrosive to his credibility.

Considering the other shit he's spouting, I wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion that "lying" is the best explanation if he claimed that space aliens promised him an appointment to the Federation Academy on Uranus - delivered via anal probe - not when "batshit crazy" is still on the table.

...and it is.

(November 6, 2015 at 7:38 pm)Full Circle Wrote: I never thought I would see someone say more stupid things than Sarah Palin but I was wong, I admit it.

I think that's what they call an Uncle Tom. It's always sad hearing anyone saying slavery was a good thing, especially a black guy. Someone should give them a taste of the goodness that comes from slavery. They'll be singing a different tune in a week.

(November 6, 2015 at 11:42 pm)Skeletor Wrote:

(November 6, 2015 at 11:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The circumstances might well fall out as you've described, and no harm nor foul laid -- but claiming that the offer came from the highest-ranking  general in a meeting that can not have happened is certainly corrosive to his credibility.

Considering the other shit he's spouting, I wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion that "lying" is the best explanation if he claimed that space aliens promised him an appointment to the Federation Academy on Uranus - delivered via anal probe - not when "batshit crazy" is still on the table.

...and it is.

Yeah, I'm not throwing my money on moral failure ... it's very possible that he's constructed a narrative inside his own head.

Which is, of course, equally disqualifying.

Yeah, that quote is fake as shit.

http://www.snopes.com/ben-carson-slavery/

(November 6, 2015 at 11:44 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Someone should give them a taste of the goodness that comes from slavery. They'll be singing a different tune in a week.

Perhaps something like this?

I suppose now we'll have to hear that the fucking Wall Street Journal is part of the "liberal" media?

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/another-...race-riot/

Quote:Another Ben Carson tale implodes: No evidence supports claim he shielded white classmates from 1968 race riot

Quote:Now the Wall Street Journal has gone back to fact check a claim Carson made last month, in which he says he shielded white students from rioting after the assassination of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1968. The Journal could find no evidence the event occurred.

“It may have happened, but I didn’t see it myself or hear about it,” Gregory Vartanian, a white high school classmate of Carson’s who was on ROTC with him and is now a retired U.S. Marshal, told the Journal.

(November 6, 2015 at 7:53 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I'd like to see that quote sourced. Not that I'd put it past him, it just looks too ridiculous to be real.

Here you go, straight from the horse’s mouth, enjoy the lunacy.

https://ourfuture.org/20150512/ben-carso...st-beliefs

(November 6, 2015 at 11:44 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(November 6, 2015 at 7:38 pm)Full Circle Wrote: I never thought I would see someone say more stupid things than Sarah Palin but I was wong, I admit it.

I think that's what they call an Uncle Tom. It's always sad hearing anyone saying slavery was a good thing, especially a black guy. Someone should give them a taste of the goodness that comes from slavery. They'll be singing a different tune in a week.