I am confused.....

I was to understand that the war with North Korea has NEVER been finalised and is still going...what we have experienced is 50+ years of "cease fire"

So what is the problem??

Bit like calling "...the end of play with the Ashes series due to bad light"

(January 3, 2011 at 5:23 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I am confused.....

I was to understand that the war with North Korea has NEVER been finalised and is still going...what we have experienced is 50+ years of "cease fire"

So what is the problem??

Bit like calling "...the end of play with the Ashes series due to bad light"

True, however if you stop fighting for an entire generation then I think you can say that that particular war 'finished'.

(January 3, 2011 at 5:46 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 5:23 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I am confused.....

I was to understand that the war with North Korea has NEVER been finalised and is still going...what we have experienced is 50+ years of "cease fire"

So what is the problem??

Bit like calling "...the end of play with the Ashes series due to bad light"

True, however if you stop fighting for an entire generation then I think you can say that that particular war 'finished'.

It would appear that the North Koreans don't think so...

They were just saving their pennies so they could afford more bullets eh.

(January 3, 2011 at 5:58 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: They were just saving their pennies so they could afford more bullets eh.

Perhaps...or as has been stated ...China has gotten bored with them

(January 3, 2011 at 5:59 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 5:58 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: They were just saving their pennies so they could afford more bullets eh.

Perhaps...or as has been stated ...China has gotten bored with them

So when your biggest ally abandons you is the ideal time to get aggressive?

(January 3, 2011 at 6:02 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 5:59 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 5:58 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: They were just saving their pennies so they could afford more bullets eh.

Perhaps...or as has been stated ...China has gotten bored with them

So when your biggest ally abandons you is the ideal time to get aggressive?

This could be so...but then??? We ARE dealing with one elitist group of humans here. Along with the many others (Taliban, Religious extremeists, Tribal Africans)

One can only step back and wonder at humanity's mind set.

Quite frankly ...I feel very sorry for them...A woman here in Sydney Oz...was stabbed (critically) and her two year old child stabbed to death by an afgani refugee (the husband) because they wanted to go to the beach (a well known and practiced pastime here in Oz)

So yes ..perhaps when one is 'all alone' one lashes out...to the detriment of humanity as a whole.

Japan's civilians were irrelevant to the equation, Sae. On Saipan and Okinawa many killed themselves rather than surrender. They were just as nuts as the soldiers. What had to be broken was the will of the military leadership ( there was no civilian government) to resist and that was easier said than done. Do you know that after the atomic bombings and after the Emperor had decided to surrender there was an attempted military coup on the palace grounds by the Imperial Guards led by a few fanatical officers? They wanted to rescue the emperor from the "evil men" who advised him to surrender. The coup failed and the leaders killed themselves but the fact that it happened at all tells you all you need to know about the Japanese mind-set in 1945. The populace was already blasted by incendiary bombings and a submarine blockade. In July, 1945 American carrier groups danced around the home islands with impunity. The war was lost....but it was not over.

The Germans, in contrast, were far more pragmatic than the Japanese. But surrender in European warfare was accepted.

Germans Wrote:Japan's civilians were irrelevant to the equation, Sae. On Saipan and Okinawa many killed themselves rather than surrender. They were just as nuts as the soldiers. What had to be broken was the will of the military leadership ( there was no civilian government) to resist and that was easier said than done. Do you know that after the atomic bombings and after the Emperor had decided to surrender there was an attempted military coup on the palace grounds by the Imperial Guards led by a few fanatical officers? They wanted to rescue the emperor from the "evil men" who advised him to surrender. The coup failed and the leaders killed themselves but the fact that it happened at all tells you all you need to know about the Japanese mind-set in 1945. The populace was already blasted by incendiary bombings and a submarine blockade. In July, 1945 American carrier groups danced around the home islands with impunity. The war was lost....but it was not over.

I knew about the suicides, but not about the military coup :S Than you for setting me straight on this matter