(December 2, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: Here's the thing... you can put all the gun laws you want into place. At the end of the day, ask yourself, a criminal is a criminal for what primary reason?

Criminals don't obey laws.

Given this, what makes anyone think that putting more laws on the books is going to change that line of thinking?

Knock it off, that is another stupid argument. MOST gun death is in the home/neighborhood done with legally purchased guns, be it domestic murder, accident, suicide or death by someone the victim knows. "Bad shit happens, so do nothing" is not an argument.

The issue ISN'T about legal vs illegal, the issue is VOLUME OF GUNS and EASE OF ACCESS. But more importantly it is about our country's obsessive worship of an object.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvChjHcABPA

(December 2, 2015 at 10:42 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvChjHcABPA

Is this your attempt to "calm me down"?

No sorry, in this instance it wont work. There is lots I can laugh about, but my country is making me sick and we are letting one lobby and one industry control the narrative and bully our congress. Gun death in America isn't just about what I think, this affects our economy even if you don't want to talk about lives. 

This shooting alone will cost that county millions because of the investigation, on top of all the lost work from all the businesses that had to shut down, not to mention the medical care for the survivors. But this isn't just about one mass shooting. Our ER rooms are filled every day from gun injuries and that drives up the cost of insurance and or gets dumped on the tax payers. So if the right is all about money then that alone should motivate them to do something about it. But this is about lives and it is not going to get reduced until sane people stand up to the morons who prop up these conditions.

(December 2, 2015 at 10:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 2, 2015 at 10:42 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvChjHcABPA

Is this your attempt to "calm me down"?

No sorry, in this instance it wont work. There is lots I can laugh about, but my country is making me sick and we are letting one lobby and one industry control the narrative and bully our congress. Gun death in America isn't just about what I think, this affects our economy even if you don't want to talk about lives. 

This shooting alone will cost that county millions because of the investigation, on top of all the lost work from all the businesses that had to shut down, not to mention the medical care for the survivors. But this isn't just about one mass shooting. Our ER rooms are filled every day from gun injuries and that drives up the cost of insurance and or gets dumped on the tax payers. So if the right is all about money then that alone should motivate them to do something about it. But this is about lives and it is not going to get reduced until sane people stand up to the morons who prop up these conditions.

You're taking it out on the wrong people, Brian. You're going to have a hard time getting people to listen to you if you don't cut out the histrionics.

(December 2, 2015 at 10:14 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(December 2, 2015 at 10:02 pm)Aroura Wrote: I am surprised you have the mental capacity to string words together into a coherent sentence.

Oh wait, you dont. Everything you say sound like a poe or a troll. Get a life, Cartman wannabe.

If I thought like you we would both be wrong.  

The cops were the ones who claimed that there was a third person in the vehicle that got away without getting a nick on him.  Were they lying or are they incompetent?  We know that they lie about every case from coast to coast and from border to border.  Isn't it amazing how they always manage to fill unarmed blacks with lead but they always have trouble killing actual armed white murderers, even in a shootout?

Everybody and his brother will be making excuses for the shooters in the next five minutes.  Stay tuned.

 It's triple hilarious!!!

How do you know what I think, I have not given an opinion in this thread, except that you are a moron or a troll. GDIAF, troll. Toodles.

(December 2, 2015 at 10:56 pm)The_Empress Wrote: You're taking it out on the wrong people, Brian. You're going to have a hard time getting people to listen to you if you don't cut out the histrionics.

On that note; I would like to apologize to m.h. brewer. I was recently rude to him based on a misunderstanding.
Honestly very guilty about it.

(December 2, 2015 at 10:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 2, 2015 at 10:42 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvChjHcABPA

Is this your attempt to "calm me down"?

No sorry, in this instance it wont work. There is lots I can laugh about, but my country is making me sick and we are letting one lobby and one industry control the narrative and bully our congress. Gun death in America isn't just about what I think, this affects our economy even if you don't want to talk about lives. 

This shooting alone will cost that county millions because of the investigation, on top of all the lost work from all the businesses that had to shut down, not to mention the medical care for the survivors. But this isn't just about one mass shooting. Our ER rooms are filled every day from gun injuries and that drives up the cost of insurance and or gets dumped on the tax payers. So if the right is all about money then that alone should motivate them to do something about it. But this is about lives and it is not going to get reduced until sane people stand up to the morons who prop up these conditions.

I know. I take it very seriously. 
Didn't you see the SOS I put out?

(December 2, 2015 at 10:38 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 2, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: Here's the thing... you can put all the gun laws you want into place. At the end of the day, ask yourself, a criminal is a criminal for what primary reason?

Criminals don't obey laws.

Given this, what makes anyone think that putting more laws on the books is going to change that line of thinking?

Knock it off, that is another stupid argument. MOST gun death is in the home/neighborhood done with legally purchased guns, be it domestic murder, accident, suicide or death by someone the victim knows. "Bad shit happens, so do nothing" is not an argument.

The issue ISN'T about legal vs illegal, the issue is VOLUME OF GUNS and EASE OF ACCESS. But more importantly it is about our country's obsessive worship of an object.

Wow. Hate much? You might not agree and that's fine, but there is absolutely no need to tell me to knock it off or say that my argument is stupid. It was merely a thought. One that I have discussed before with other friends of mine. I stayed on topic. I don't get what your problem is.

(December 2, 2015 at 10:56 pm)The_Empress Wrote:

(December 2, 2015 at 10:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Is this your attempt to "calm me down"?

No sorry, in this instance it wont work. There is lots I can laugh about, but my country is making me sick and we are letting one lobby and one industry control the narrative and bully our congress. Gun death in America isn't just about what I think, this affects our economy even if you don't want to talk about lives. 

This shooting alone will cost that county millions because of the investigation, on top of all the lost work from all the businesses that had to shut down, not to mention the medical care for the survivors. But this isn't just about one mass shooting. Our ER rooms are filled every day from gun injuries and that drives up the cost of insurance and or gets dumped on the tax payers. So if the right is all about money then that alone should motivate them to do something about it. But this is about lives and it is not going to get reduced until sane people stand up to the morons who prop up these conditions.

You're taking it out on the wrong people, Brian. You're going to have a hard time getting people to listen to you if you don't cut out the histrionics.

Hardly, I am not the only one who feels this way, so if others don't like my word choice, they will still go to other venues and or to advocacy groups on their own without me. I doubt anyone whom sides with me that might disagree with my word choice is in danger of becoming a tea party gun worshiper. 

Again, this is as bad as when people get angry at the people getting angry at the right people. Like when you say fuck homophobes and someone is more worried about offending the bigots.

Fine, nobody has to listen to me, but if you want to do something, don't complain about me, if you think you can do better then do it. The goal is still the same, get more voices on the subject.

The amount of gun death should offend you, not me saying "I want this shit to stop".

(December 2, 2015 at 10:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Criminals don't obey laws.

They aren't "criminals" until they start shooting.  Before that they can buy all the fucking guns/ammo they want.

The available supply must be curtailed.

You want to hunt?  Get a bolt action rifle or shotgun.

I agree, but unfortunately many don't see it that way. Personally, I feel that if you want to hunt, you can have certain guns for certain types of animals. For instance, you wouldn't want to go hunting doves with anything more than a 12 gauge shotgun, otherwise you'll blow it to bits. As for hunting deer, you can use a 410 rifle, which is the smallest caliber rifle you can use to hunt deer with. You can also use a 12 gauge with a slug, but the largest caliber rifle that you can ever use is a 50 caliber. All in all, while I don't think people need a shitload of guns, I do feel that for the person who hunts for food resources needs to have the proper type of rifle/shotgun to use. 

Do they need a handful of each one? Certainly not, because a person can only use one at a time.