Either you sell guns or you don't. If you sell them, inevitably they will end up in the hands of people who intend to use them.

(December 4, 2015 at 2:19 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Either you sell guns or you don't. If you sell them, inevitably they will end up in the hands of people who intend to use them.

Yep the issue is NOT legal vs illegal, the issue is volume made and ease of access.

I tried but I could get though all 24 pages of the anti gun BS.

Are non of you honest enough to admit these people were terrorists? the LA times reports that this guy swore allegiance to ISIS on Facebook, plus the Police department declaring all of the planning that went on in this tactical strike.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html
What else is left?

Are you all so bent on adding gun laws that you can't admit that a terrorist will get ahold of a gun no matter what and use said gun in their act of terror? But if we only had one or two examples of a gun free country being shot up in the last couple of years by terrorists despite very tight anti gun laws.

woops, wrong thread.

(December 4, 2015 at 2:51 pm)Drich Wrote: I tried but I could get though all 24 pages of the anti gun BS.

Are non of you honest enough to admit these people were terrorists? the LA times reports that this guy swore allegiance to ISIS on Facebook, plus the Police department declaring all of the planning that went on in this tactical strike.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html
What else is left?

Are you all so bent on adding gun laws that you can't admit that a terrorist will get ahold of a gun no matter what and use said gun in their act of terror? But if we only had one or two examples of a gun free country being shot up in the last couple of years by terrorists despite very tight anti gun laws.

Yea but I am sure you don't want Muslims getting a hold of them, even if they are legal citizens with no record when they buy them legally, like the SB shooters. Forget that the Va Tec shooter had no record at the time of purchase. Forget that the PP shooter was not a Muslim, and these two were Clive Bundy Supporters 

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/vegas-c...ee-n125766

Motive is not the issue, be it religious/political/or whackjob. The issue is that they all got their hands on guns, both legally and illegally, which means our nation makes way too many, and makes them way to easy to get a hold of. People who worship guns want it both ways, they want them out of the wrong hands, but don't want any prevention to keep them out of the wrong hands. 

Nobody on the left is suggesting a ban on all guns, but they are too widely available, certain types nobody needs, and they are made like candy and handed out like candy. 

It is a MYTH that liberals want to eradicate all guns. Liberals own guns too, but the difference is they know and accept we have a gun death problem and simply want to reduce it. If more guns were the solution we would not see an increase in these events. 

So if you don't like Islam mixed with guns, why is it ok for Christians to hide behind the Constitution and threaten to "defend" the bible and guns? Especially when nobody is out to take their rights away?

Don't rightfully point out the religious politics of Islam which is armed to the teeth then ignore our right wing here in the states.

Aargh!

CNN on in the cafeteria. Yay we get a media tour of the killers house. Wtf? The landlord invited the media in since the investigation is done with the house. It makes me physically ill.

(December 3, 2015 at 2:50 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's funny, when I made a thread about the mass shooting in France that occurred lately people were all like 'It's more about the total murder rate, it's more about the total murder rate, it's more about the total murder rate!!!!!"

Why doesn't this apply to the United States? Where does the US rank in total murder rate? 121st.

121st! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...icide_rate

lol, that was one point among many ... and the only one you tried to address, really. Did you not see anything else written in that thread?

And -- you still haven't responded to my last post there.

Quote:Where does the US rank in total murder rate? 121st.

So your goal is to beat Columbia and Burundi?  Wow. 

Not saying that the US is a first world nation any longer but comparing us to places where they eat their enemies is not saying much.




I guess if you set your standards low enough......

(December 4, 2015 at 1:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 4, 2015 at 8:58 am)KUSA Wrote: It's not a word game. I'm not familiar with that term. The only spray weapon I can think of is a water gun. Or do you mean fully automatic firearms? Or perhaps semi automatic firearms?

Bullshit, you know damned well what types of firearms I mean. You are playing stupid because you want to protect the status quo. Not going to play word games with you.

I have never heard the terminology that you are using. If you are referring to full auto weapons then I'm not going to fuss about them as they are mostly banned already.

However, if you are talking about semi-auto weapons then I've got a problem with that.

This line you throw out as an appeaser saying that you don't want all guns banned is bull shit. What you would ban is everything other than a single shot. Fuck that.