Quote:This book(The Qur'an)does prove these things.
Books cannot prove themselves.
Where is the contemporary historical/archaeological evidence for any of your bullshit?
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Is Quran the proof of God?
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 Books cannot prove themselves. Where is the contemporary historical/archaeological evidence for any of your bullshit?  (January 11, 2016 at 11:26 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: drfuzzy Screw the prophets and the "signs" and the books and all of this CRAP and just prove that he exists - give us something real. Otherwise he's less believable than leprechauns and tooth fairies.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
January 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2016 at 12:03 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Here's a fun exercize, to elaborate upon my previous post. Try to find some example of a biographical detail in the NT concerning jesus that is -not- a vehicle for theology.
Even seemingly simple things...such as his (hilariously convoluted) ancestry, exist within the narrative merely to establish some religious proposition. In this example.. that he is rightful heir to the davidic kingdom promised to the chosen people.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
January 11, 2016 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2016 at 12:43 pm by GrandizerII.)
(January 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Here's a fun exercize, to elaborate upon my previous post. Try to find some example of a biographical detail in the NT concerning jesus that is -not- a vehicle for theology. Mark 14:51-52 A young man was following Him, wearing nothing but a linen sheet over his naked body; and they seized him. But he pulled free of the linen sheet and escaped naked.
Kinky jesus!
 (January 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Here's a fun exercize, to elaborate upon my previous post. Try to find some example of a biographical detail in the NT concerning jesus that is -not- a vehicle for theology. There's a youtube series, I think by Sargon of Assad, that goes into this in depth. Basically the idea is that the Jesus story in Mark was a cheap ripoff of Homer's Odyssey, cashing in on that epic's success for a contemporary audience. Not sure how much to take at face value, but interesting viewing.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (January 10, 2016 at 4:32 am)mr_j936 Wrote:Quote:it really is amazing how rude and vulgar you atheists are Well said, but minus 2 marks for not ending it with "You utter cuntbag." As you were,
You may refer to me as "Oh High One."
RE: Is Quran the proof of God?
January 11, 2016 at 1:24 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2016 at 1:25 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 11, 2016 at 12:56 pm)Stimbo Wrote: There's a youtube series, I think by Sargon of Assad, that goes into this in depth. Basically the idea is that the Jesus story in Mark was a cheap ripoff of Homer's Odyssey, cashing in on that epic's success for a contemporary audience. Not sure how much to take at face value, but interesting viewing. Even if it weren't intended as such it could not have avoided contamination. The scribes who put "scripture" to page would have learned to write by reference to those epics. We write in the manner and style in which we are taught. This is such a reliable observation that we can place literary works in a chronology by reference to the themes and turns of phrase contained therein. Greek (and a whole host of other) influences upon the NT and OT would have been inescapable. One must dive headfirst into fantasy in order to avoid this acknowledgement. I'll check out that series.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Going from memory - I'll have to track it down and watch it again - there are too many narrative parallels to be coincidental. For example, the idea of the hero going undercover and only revealing his identity to a select few.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(January 11, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Going from memory - I'll have to track it down and watch it again - there are too many narrative parallels to be coincidental. For example, the idea of the hero going undercover and only revealing his identity to a select few. Odysseus? He conceals his identity temporarily from his wife and her suitors when he gets back home from his voyage, but throughout the journey on sea, he was obvious to everyone around him. But even so, this is a story idea that is too common (archetypal) to even consider as a remarkable thing to emulate. I'm sure, the Hindus and the Chinese had that in their stories as well. |
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