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How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
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RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
(January 14, 2016 at 8:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No, they'd be dead.  We hunt the ones that stray from their pens for reasons unrelated to dinner.  Badass motherfuckers, pigs (much respect...lol)....and If it weren't for us I'd give them the best shot at survival in our absence....but we aren't absent.  In the absence of production pigs are a nuisance, much like wolves or mountain lions....and we see what's happened to them. A vegetarian world would not abide their existence any more than our omnivorous world already does...which is not at all.  They're a liability.

Good points all. I did mean without human interference, but that's not really feasible, as you said.

When I was a kid, we sometimes had as many as a couple of hundred pigs on the place at the same time, and you're right - the ones that went feral were killed out of hand.

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#42
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
My youngest daughter is a Vegetarian, and her wife is a Vegan.  They both refuse to eat meat due to the unethical treatment of animals by farms, and the way it's ignored.  Not one myself though, cause I love a good hamburger.  But to each their own.
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#43
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
I don't care about organic. I do buy meat from a butcher who is also a farmer who I know raises his animals and is kind to them and kills them as humanely as possible.

We aren't the only animals in the world who eat other animals, but we are the only ones who consider the possible intelligence of a food source as a good reason not to kill it. We don't tend to eat dogs or dolphins or apes.
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#44
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
(January 14, 2016 at 8:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Good points all.  I did mean without human interference, but that's not really feasible, as you said.  

When I was a kid, we sometimes had as many as a couple of hundred pigs on the place at the same time, and you're right - the ones that went feral were killed out of hand.

Boru
I grew up in pigs too.  Never had as many as yall though.  Just a few dozen, enough to fill my wheelbarrow with pigshit every week...so we could spread it on the sugarsand and grow peanuts.  I love and hate pigs in equal measure.  Probably don't have to explain that to you, though, eh?

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#45
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
I love bacon. Pigs...are stinky. Piglets....LOVE.
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#46
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
They are cute...it's tough to take the razor to them...but you cant let em get balls as big as your own. Trouble trouble.

(totally just caused me shit, Losty...my daughter saw that picture and I had to explain that Pongo (our dog) has been trained to hunt them...can't have one as pet. Now you owe me....... I've been known to extract debt out of hides. Wink )
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#47
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
For the religious, doesn't being a vegetarian kinda ruin the whole communion/transubstantiation thing?
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#48
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
(January 14, 2016 at 8:54 pm)Losty Wrote: I don't care about organic. I do buy meat from a butcher who is also a farmer who I know raises his animals and is kind to them and kills them as humanely as possible.

We aren't the only animals in the world who eat other animals, but we are the only ones who consider the possible intelligence of a food source as a good reason not to kill it. We don't tend to eat dogs or dolphins or apes.

Pigs are extremely intelligent though. Comparable to dogs. 

Which is also the reason why I hardly ever eat pork. Just feel way too guilty.
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#49
RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
You shouldn't.  They'd eat you given the chance. They'll even nibble, for a little taste, before you're dead.
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RE: How to be a vegetarian? (And also, why to be one?)
I eat pork sometimes. Ham is my weakness. Pigs don't reach dogs on my scale. I grew up on a farm. I know the heartache of saying goodbye to animals you loved from birth because your mom needs something to go with the eggs for breakfast. Pigs are cool, you can teach them a lot of things. I don't think they're as smart as dogs. They taste amazing. Sometimes I just feel no shame for being a horrible horrible person. Pigs are delicious.
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