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(January 15, 2016 at 9:30 am)Dasboot Wrote: Not sure how the Quran is proof of anything, except hatred. The Quran is nothing more than a plagiarised version of the Bible.
My friend first let me say that my intentions are not to deface urs or anyone's belief. I tell this to any and all non-muslims who I debate with. All I am doing is showing why I follow Islam as my only religion and why I worship God Almighty alone. But I have a question for u. Just to get more input on ur belief as an Atheist, what is the view of life after we as humans die? Do u or most atheists in general believe in the Hereafter? Also what is the Atheist view on angels? Do u believe they exist? I'm just trying to understand more of atheism besides just not believing in God
I'll give you the exact reason why you worship an obviously made up idea. It's because you're unwilling to question the obvious bullshit the despotic thugs ruling your home have rammed down your people's throats for generations. If you read the quran with a critical eye and access to a modern enclycopedia you'd know it has nothing relevant to say.
Reading these just make me say : God exists.
For this simple reason : something so huge that it scares you, yet it misses our little planet every tiny time, it just points o a certain fact.
God exists. But humans in many times, don't realize him right.
You can smell mystery? You must have an interesting nose.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
January 16, 2016 at 4:37 pm (This post was last modified: January 16, 2016 at 4:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Almost as a rule, Atlas, no...no I don't.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(May 12, 2012 at 10:12 am)jain.rahul Wrote: I have been given this reason by a muslim that god exists.
Number of times the word "Moon" appears in the Qur’an = 27
Time it takes the Moon to travel round the Earth (in days) = 27
Number of times the word “land” appears in the Qur’an = 13
Number of times the word “sea” appears in the Qur’an = 32
Proportion of dry land to sea covering the Earth = 13/45 = 29%
Proportion of sea to dry land on Earth = 32/45 = 71%
The star Sirius appears in the Surah called an-Najm, meaning “Star.” The stars comprising Sirius approach one another in their courses once every 49.9 years. This astronomic phenomenon is indicated in verses 49 and 9 of Surat an-Najm.
Al-Hadid is the 57th Surah of the Qur’an, and the numerical value of the words al-Hadid is also 57.
The value of the word "hadid" alone is 26, and this is also the atomic number of iron.
The word “day (yavm)" appears 365 times in the Qur’an.
It takes the Earth 365 days to orbit the Sun.
The words “man” and “woman” both appear 23 times in the Qur’an.
The 23rd chromosome is the main element that determines an individual’s gender.
Verse 19:57 of the Qur’an speaks of “raising to a high place.”
"Sputnik 1," the first unmanned satellite, was launched in 1957.
Surat an-Nahl, meaning “Bee,” is the 16th Surah.
The bee has 16 chromosomes.
This proves that Quran is the word of God.
I haven't read Quran myself to refute these arguments. Any advises?
I noticed under your "religious views" you listed "Jainism".
Well, regardless of the adherents of ANY religion, all religions now and in our entire species history, regardless if one claims they have no god/s or try to call them "philosophies", none in our species history have ever been a requirement for evolution to occur.
Humans have invented every single one. ALL religions are nothing more than artificial social structures reflecting the societies they were created in and or currently held. But none of them are universal to the entire world.
Islam has no evidence to it either. It is simply another human invented club.
(January 15, 2016 at 8:04 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Allah is not all-powerful, despite what Quran 30:54 and other Iyah say. For example, can Allah have a son? Yes or no?
Or can Allah forgive Shirk? Yes or no? Never understood why Shirk is worse than slavery or killing another human.
Have I not found things Allah cannot do? And that's putting aside the fact that I can't objectively test for Allah. What's a repeatable experiment to prove the existence of Allah?
what u and a lot of other people do is try to put God Allah on a human level. Allah CAN do anything He desires for He is Almighty God. The concept ur missing is He WONT have a son, because having offspring is a human/animal act of reproduction and Allah is far above that. Just as He WONT forget, err, eat, drink, get sick, die, repent or many of the other things that we as human have to do through our lives. Just because there are things that we have been blessed to do that God does, doesn't mean it the same. For instance we can forgive people and be merciful bit Allah is Most Forgiving Most Merciful. We as humans can punish people but who's punishment is more severe than Allah's? None. We can see and hear and have knowledge but Allah is All Seeing, All Hearing and All Knowing. We're not. So just because we do things that God does doesn't mean we do them as well as Him, we can't. Also just because we do things doesn't God does them too. He doesn't. Certain actions would lower His standards to the level of His creations which would then make Him equal with others, and God Allah is divinely unique
What you said is fair enough, but I think the Quran does a pretty good job of "putting Allah on a human level". For example, love is a human emotion. We can even quantify love by examining hormones involved in love. Take Quran 3:31, for example,
"Say, (O Muhammad, to mankind): If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
Anger is another human emotion/reaction. There are several verses that mention the anger of Allah. For example, Quran 3:162:
Is the man who follows the good pleasure of Allah Like the man who draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and whose abode is in Hell?- A woeful refuge!
Quran 38:27 claims Allah created creation with a purpose in mind:
Not without purpose did We create heaven and earth and all between! that were the thought of Unbelievers! but woe to the Unbelievers because of the Fire (of Hell)!
However, it does not tell us what this purpose is. So we are left wondering: What is the point of existence? Is it necessary? If humans were created only to serve Allah then that would make Allah extremely egotistical. People with big egos demand reverence.
By the way, having children is no problem for the Christian god.
