(January 27, 2016 at 2:31 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Give me a TL: DR version. What exactly have they done that is considered 'dirty tactics'. Couldn't read through that convoluted article.

Well, spying on your workers just because you want to isn't exactly legal unless you have a justification or something.

(January 27, 2016 at 2:48 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Well, spying on your workers just because you want to isn't exactly legal unless you have a justification or something.

What law is that then?

I don't know about other countries but in the UK it's not only legal, but good business practice to monitor the activities of workers while in work.

(January 27, 2016 at 3:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(January 27, 2016 at 2:48 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Well, spying on your workers just because you want to isn't exactly legal unless you have a justification or something.

What law is that then?

I don't know about other countries but in the UK it's not only legal, but good business practice to monitor the activities of workers while in work.

It's ok to monitor your workers to see if they're doing their work properly. It is another to try to monitor your workers to see if they are part of a union or want to schedule a strike, etc. Unions should be recognized as a fundamental right already, not as a bloodsucking group of parasites, which is a ridiculous assumption

(January 27, 2016 at 1:51 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(January 27, 2016 at 12:55 pm)Exian Wrote: But of all the corporate scumbags to suddenly show interest in what their employees are doing, I'd least suspect Walmart. I don't think I've ever seen people actively doing their job there, nor have I seen evidence that somebody recently did their job.

My ex- works at a Walmart as a department manager. She busts her ass, to the point of having stress-related illnesses. I don't know how often you shop at Walmart, but I have refused to do so since she told me exactly how they grind her down with demands for more work even as they begrudge every sick day that they themselves helped to bring on.

Yeah, my ex worked there for a while as well. She was also the type to bust her ass and she was the only one, so they leaned heavy on her as I'm sure they do to your ex. This is what they did, rather than come down hard on the lazy ass people.

She was fired after being sexually harassed and stalked by another manager, who was a favorite. When she brought up the issue, rather than deal with the actual problem, they fired her. This is why I'm surprised they are invested enough to spy on their employees.

(January 27, 2016 at 3:27 pm)Exian Wrote: She was fired after being sexually harassed and stalked by another manager, who was a favorite. When she brought up the issue, rather than deal with the actual problem, they fired her. This is why I'm surprised they are invested enough to spy on their employees.

Sorry for her bad experiences there, but that is exactly why I'm not surprised they spy on their employees. It's much cheaper to pay a "Delta Team" of ten corporate suits to monitor manager reports than it is to institute broad changes such as the ones the activists were urging. They aren't invested in their employees -- they're invested in their profits, and see activist employees as a positive threat.

They were invading the privacy of the people who were standing up to them, hiring the F.B.I and others to spy for a non-crime issues is highly illegal. If a group of people want to hold a protest about working issues they have with the company is their right. The Big corporations have no right to monitor there workers outside of work.

Walmart is just the Amazon of the retail world. It's turn and burn. Forcing low wages to keep competitive, which pushes down the wage average of the community, while demanding cost cutting measures from manufacturers which in turns pushes down their labor costs, and continuing the downturn, while creating an economy where labor pays nothing so they can only afford to shop at wallmart ensuring the customer base. They come in and destroy main street small business established mom and pop stores. Personally I never shop there, as I don't want to support the manufacturing base moving to China and Americans losing jobs. Then you look at the factories in China that build all of our stuff we consume, it's horrendous! In FoxConn where apple products are built, they installed suicide nets to prevent their workers from jumping to their deaths from the roof of the building.

That fact is true, when a power is caught with it's pant's down is not best to point out that they there with out pants to others?

Oooh. Well, this should be a rare opportunity to see the scientific methods of strike breaking implemented on a grand scale in the era of social media.
Should be interesting.

(January 28, 2016 at 6:22 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Oooh. Well, this should be a rare opportunity to see the scientific methods of strike breaking implemented on a grand scale in the era of social media.
Should be interesting.

It's more about economics than science. Walmart will win, for that reason alone.