(February 9, 2016 at 2:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:27 pm)athrock Wrote: Grow up? This from a guy who continues to refer to the Bible as a comic book?

Yep comic book. Men magically popping out of dirt, women magically popping out of a man's rib, talking snakes, talking donkeys, talking bushes, treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light. Claims babies can be born without a second set of DNA and have magic super powers, and a death story that would have us believe you can have all the blood drained out of your body, suffer brain death, have all your organs die, suffer the stages of rigor mortis, then magically come back to life.

YEP a comic book, just like Superman vs Lex Luther. Immature is thinking an unscientific book explains anything.

How old were you when you left the Catholic Church?

(February 9, 2016 at 2:35 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:33 pm)athrock Wrote: Implying that I implied this is...Kevin, ladies and gentlemen.

Considering you put it in the same sentence....

Oh, I get it...you don't see all of these things as sins.  Pedophilia is wrong (presumably because it's not YOUR thing) but adultery and divorce are okay because you might need those at some point.

(February 9, 2016 at 2:37 pm)athrock Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep comic book. Men magically popping out of dirt, women magically popping out of a man's rib, talking snakes, talking donkeys, talking bushes, treats the sun and moon as separate sources of light. Claims babies can be born without a second set of DNA and have magic super powers, and a death story that would have us believe you can have all the blood drained out of your body, suffer brain death, have all your organs die, suffer the stages of rigor mortis, then magically come back to life.

YEP a comic book, just like Superman vs Lex Luther. Immature is thinking an unscientific book explains anything.

How old were you when you left the Catholic Church?

What the fuck does that matter? I could have left last year and it still would not make any of the bullshit hocus pokus claims in that comic book true.

It is an old book of myth written for the people back then and written by people who had no clue about scientific reality.

(February 9, 2016 at 2:38 pm)athrock Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:35 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Considering you put it in the same sentence....

Oh, I get it...you don't see all of these things as sins.  Pedophilia is wrong (presumably because it's not YOUR thing) but adultery and divorce are okay because you might need those at some point.

I don't see anything as a sin because I'm not religious, you dolt.

I also don't see divorce or adultery as wrong because they're activities (presumably) being done by adults giving their informed consent.  Child molestation is completely different because it involves harming a minor.

(February 9, 2016 at 2:35 pm)athrock Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You don't find the idea that being attracted to the same sex is grounds for eternal pain and torture in hell utterly absurd?  Can't you think for yourself for one second?

We can be attracted to lots of things that are not good for us.

Some of them are more serious than others.

And why do you presume that I am not thinking for myself?

You didn't actually answer my question. Try it again.

(February 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:38 pm)athrock Wrote: Oh, I get it...you don't see all of these things as sins.  Pedophilia is wrong (presumably because it's not YOUR thing) but adultery and divorce are okay because you might need those at some point.

I don't see anything as a sin because I'm not religious, you dolt.

I also don't see divorce or adultery as wrong because they're activities (presumably) being done by adults giving their informed consent.  Child molestation is completely different because it involves harming a minor.

Sad that you have to explain the difference between pedophilia and divorce to (who I presume) is an adult, isn't it? Athrock, ask us again why we don't believe you are thinking for yourself.

(February 9, 2016 at 2:38 pm)athrock Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 2:35 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Considering you put it in the same sentence....

Oh, I get it...you don't see all of these things as sins.  Pedophilia is wrong (presumably because it's not YOUR thing) but adultery and divorce are okay because you might need those at some point.

NO MORON, the reason you don't molest kids is because their brains and bodies are not mature enough to have an adult's ability to consent. You are so desperate to paint us as monsters because we don't buy your comic book you cant understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

Demonizing us wont work. We know why humans can be cruel and we know why humans can be compassionate, and neither need to be explained with an old book. There are very evolutionary reasons you don't harm others and there is no need to explain that with a book of myth.

We are not evil just because we dont buy your sky wizard or book of myth.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that I, personally, would cheat on a partner. I value honesty and openness - for both myself and a partner - too much to do something behind their back. If I'm no longer interested/in love with some one, I tell them. Period.

But, I really don't give a shit about what others do behind closed doors so long as consent is given and no harm is done. I honestly don't understand this incessant need of some to control others' sexuality. It's more than a bit bizarre to me.

(February 9, 2016 at 1:57 pm)athrock Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 12:30 pm)Esquilax Wrote: So, I know it's a really easy response that doesn't require you to think critically or engage with the things I've said before, but "you don't know what you're talking about" is not a refutation. It's a fiat dismissal based on nothing but your unwillingness to consider what's being said.

You can go that way if you want, but I'm not required to treat your sneering condescension as anything other than what it is: a full fledged retreat from the argument.

As you know, I've spent a LOT of time responding to your posts. (You're the 25-year-old with the bachelor's degree in philosophy who works full time as a social worker who thinks he can take down William Lane Craig who has TWO PhD's in philosophy and spends all HIS time studying the philosophical arguments for God and other apologetics subjects.)

However, maybe I'm wrong.

I will watch your posts for some evidence that you know Jesus and Catholicism well (or at all).

BIB: I'd say thats an appeal to authority.

And how do you know Esquilax doesn't spend his time studying the same things.

You are being incredibly condescending and wonder why people are the way they are with you.

(February 9, 2016 at 2:54 pm)Helio Nimbus Wrote:

(February 9, 2016 at 1:57 pm)athrock Wrote: As you know, I've spent a LOT of time responding to your posts. (You're the 25-year-old with the bachelor's degree in philosophy who works full time as a social worker who thinks he can take down William Lane Craig who has TWO PhD's in philosophy and spends all HIS time studying the philosophical arguments for God and other apologetics subjects.)

However, maybe I'm wrong.

I will watch your posts for some evidence that you know Jesus and Catholicism well (or at all).

BIB: I'd say thats an appeal to authority.

And how do you know Esquilax doesn't spend his time studying the same things.

You are being incredibly condescending and wonder why people are the way they are with you.

He also had an appeal to popularity on the previous page, for those counting at home.