Come on over, we still welcome people despite what Fox News says.

(February 18, 2016 at 6:50 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: Come on over, we still welcome people despite what Fox News says.

Lol, if only it were that easy.

Nah, I'll only go live there in my forties or something. I'm planning to go study in Germany/Austria, right now. Anyway, I can go to a lot of places with my current passport , but the U.S.? Not so easy.

(February 18, 2016 at 6:53 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 6:50 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: Come on over, we still welcome people despite what Fox News says.

Lol, if only it were that easy.

Nah, I'll only go live there in my forties or something. I'm planning to go study in Germany/Austria, right now. Anyway, I can go to a lot of places with my current passport , but the U.S.? Not so easy.

If you get out by the Big Muddy (Mississippi River), be sure to take a gander at this little doodad.

(February 18, 2016 at 3:14 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(February 5, 2016 at 11:25 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Wow, another Atheist forums thread bitching about America. How original.

Cause fuck everything that's Anti-American, right? Don't make me laugh. Your country is universally hated and rightfully so, not saying that all yanks are horrible people but I do understand why some folk hate it.

That explains the immigration patterns we see, I expect.

(February 18, 2016 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: "Universally", meaning whomever is currently wearing your underwear. 

According to a Gallup/WIN poll, the US is considered the most dangerous country.

http://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-bigge...ca-1525008

Quote:In their annual End of Year poll, researchers for WIN and Gallup International surveyed more than 66,000 people across 65 nations and found that 24 percent of all respondents answered that the United States “is the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” Pakistan and China fell significantly behind the United States on the poll, with 8 and 6 percent, respectively. Afghanistan, Iran, Israel and North Korea all tied for fourth place with 4 percent.

First, I don't know what I would have answered if asked. During the Bush years, it would have been a no brainer yes. During the Obama years, not so much. It all depends on who's in the White House, how they behave and who's controlling the houses. Same goes for the future. Hilary has the potential to be dangerous, Cruz or Trump are disasters waiting to happen. Bernie, remote as his chances seem right now, probably won't be a war hawk.

You have to put things into perspective. The US is the leading military power. Able to strike almost everywhere in the world within short notice. With that kind of power comes a great deal of responsibility that was sorely missing at certain points in the past. It also means, as I said before, that fuckups leave a bigger fallout. Especially when it comes to military interventions or economical busts.

So, I agree that North Korea or Iran present less of a danger. They're isolated midgets in comparison. Israel has the potential to draw the US into a conflict. Turkey on the other hand, in it's current state and with it's government running amok, is a clear and present danger, since it's a member of NATO and could provoke an attack calling for NATO response.

(February 18, 2016 at 3:14 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(February 5, 2016 at 11:25 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Wow, another Atheist forums thread bitching about America. How original.

Cause fuck everything that's Anti-American, right? Don't make me laugh. Your country is universally hated and rightfully so, not saying that all yanks are horrible people but I do understand why some folk hate it.

It's not an either/or choice. So way to put words into my mouth. Also the US isn't universally hated. That's ridiculous. You only have to go as far as Mexico to know that's not even close to true.

The USA is not a disgrace. It just gets more publicity that the UK.

We have plenty of lovely disgraces over here too. But no one pays us any attention!    

Why not come to sunny England? Visit Lawnmower World, or the Margate Shell Grotto!

I can't believe this thread still has a pulse. Here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8qBQzcvIAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgzi80dVelA

(February 18, 2016 at 1:11 pm)abaris Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: "Universally", meaning whomever is currently wearing your underwear. 

According to a Gallup/WIN poll, the US is considered the most dangerous country.

http://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-bigge...ca-1525008

Quote:In their annual End of Year poll, researchers for WIN and Gallup International surveyed more than 66,000 people across 65 nations and found that 24 percent of all respondents answered that the United States “is the greatest threat to peace in the world today.” Pakistan and China fell significantly behind the United States on the poll, with 8 and 6 percent, respectively. Afghanistan, Iran, Israel and North Korea all tied for fourth place with 4 percent.

First, I don't know what I would have answered if asked. During the Bush years, it would have been a no brainer yes. During the Obama years, not so much. It all depends on who's in the White House, how they behave and who's controlling the houses. Same goes for the future. Hilary has the potential to be dangerous, Cruz or Trump are disasters waiting to happen. Bernie, remote as his chances seem right now, probably won't be a war hawk.

You have to put things into perspective. The US is the leading military power. Able to strike almost everywhere in the world within short notice. With that kind of power comes a great deal of responsibility that was sorely missing at certain points in the past. It also means, as I said before, that fuckups leave a bigger fallout. Especially when it comes to military interventions or economical busts.

So, I agree that North Korea or Iran present less of a danger. They're isolated midgets in comparison. Israel has the potential to draw the US into a conflict. Turkey on the other hand, in it's current state and with it's government running amok, is a clear and present danger, since it's a member of NATO and could provoke an attack calling for NATO response.

Good thing the general population aren't considered experts on the matter, then.

(February 5, 2016 at 9:30 pm)Aractus Wrote: Okay...

Aractus,

Something you might be interested in is General Smedly Butler. In fact all Americans should read his book; War is a Racket:  http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

Long story short, he was contacted by the elite of the US which included Prescott Bush, which was George W Bush's grandfather, also member of skull and bones society at Yale, to create a coup to overthrown President Roosevelt and install a dictatorship basically which was closely aligned with Hitler and Mussolini. He refused their plan to take thousands of troops under his command and change leadership, and exposed the whole thing to congress. Once people in this country understand the connections of the Bush family to Hitler which created their wealth through the banking system, it should start to become more obvious why they were involved in various false flag attacks against the US. The bush family is just a small part of this plan, which people also don't realize.