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What is to be done about religion?

Poll: What is to be done about religion?
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Fight them on the beaches, fight them in the fields .. do everything reasonable to end the dark night of religion.
14.29%
 4 14.29%
Speak up whenever possible to encourage those who will listen to leave behind the crutch of religion.
42.86%
 12 42.86%
Live and let live. Hang with the ones you like. Criticize those you don't when the opportunity arises.
35.71%
 10 35.71%
Discuss and criticize theology with those who want to talk about it, but with a mind to improve it, not end it.
7.14%
 2 7.14%
Whatever they may believe, everyone's beliefs are on the same plane and worthy of respect.
0%
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What is to be done about religion?
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 5:37 am
Having a private discussion with an entrenched theist is almost certainly going to be a waste of time, unless they come to you with genuine questions.

However, the same thing can be much more worthwhile when there is a potential audience, such as here on the forum. Even if Mr N Trenched will never change his mind about anything, reasoned arguments may help other onlookers to think.
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 9:09 am
Mr. N Trenched sounds so familiar... Thinking 
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I know that motherfucker.
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 10:12 am
Your mother or someone else's?
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 10:14 am
(March 13, 2016 at 9:09 am)Thena323 Wrote: Mr. N Trenched sounds so familiar... Thinking 
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I know that motherfucker.

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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 10:49 am
(March 13, 2016 at 10:14 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 13, 2016 at 9:09 am)Thena323 Wrote: Mr. N Trenched sounds so familiar... Thinking 
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I know that motherfucker.

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Oh, dear. Is Mr. N Trenched You?
I took Mr. N Trenched to be an archetype, not a particular individual.

If it's referring to you specifically, then have my sincere apologies, MK...You're not an MF.
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 10:54 am
Religion is divisive. If it is divisive towards good ends, it should be preserved. If it is divisive towards no ends, it should be destroyed.

It is not known whether religion is toward good or null ends. Therefore, it's not known what should be done about religion.
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 11:12 am (This post was last modified: March 13, 2016 at 11:12 am by robvalue.)
I object fundamentally to the idea that "faith" is a way of learning or knowing anything. Almost all religious people seem to perpetuate this worthless and harmful myth.
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 12:06 pm
Faith is like getting your knowledge bare back.
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 2:38 pm
(March 13, 2016 at 10:54 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Religion is divisive.  If it is divisive towards good ends, it should be preserved.  If it is divisive towards no ends, it should be destroyed.

It is not known whether religion is toward good or null ends.  Therefore, it's not known what should be done about religion.

But how would you react if someone, who according to his/her religious beliefs and morality, says that you are a criminal because you do X, and X is immoral and a crime according to this person and you should be punished accordingly?
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RE: What is to be done about religion?
March 13, 2016 at 2:48 pm
(March 13, 2016 at 2:38 pm)little_monkey Wrote:
(March 13, 2016 at 10:54 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Religion is divisive.  If it is divisive towards good ends, it should be preserved.  If it is divisive towards no ends, it should be destroyed.

It is not known whether religion is toward good or null ends.  Therefore, it's not known what should be done about religion.

But how would you react if someone, who according to his/her religious beliefs and morality, says that you are a criminal because you do X, and X is immoral and a crime according to this person and you should be punished accordingly?

I'd attempt to reason with them to find out why they felt that way. If they couldn't come up with good reasons for it, I'd dismiss their concerns and tell them that I thought they were wrong. Democracy and free speech is the road to conflict resolution.

What would you do?
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