https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsbX8wRE2Xc



Can I jump into conclusion and say "fuck da muzlimz" ?

Yeah. I mean at this point I don't know who is worse, the Muslims themselves or the people who refuse to believe anything has to do with Islam.

I'm sure Trump will want to carpet bomb Brussels.

Tragic, but hardly surprising. This is what happens when the West continually meddles in a region for generations, leaving it progressively worse every time.

(March 22, 2016 at 12:10 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Tragic, but hardly surprising.  This is what happens when the West continually meddles in a region for generations, leaving it progressively worse every time.

That or our intervention has actually helped and beaten back full-blown armageddon. That's more what I think. We have to constantly push back against the forces of anti-humanism and anti-civilization. If we stop, those forces will build up and mount the biggest attack possible and destroy us. Sorry for the Godwin, but it's kinda like if we hadn't done the whole appeasement thing before WWII and we had actually beaten back Hitler, and people like you would have been like "god damn us for our fucking meddling, that is why Hitler is so angry in the first place, it's our fault, why can't we just leave him alone?" And it's because of these voices, who you can never convince that people may have bad intentions for us for no reason, that things always have to get worse and worse until they cross a threshhold of true existential threat, at which point it is too late to handle without causing hundreds of millions of deaths and entire countries reduced to corpses and rubble.

As long as religion continues to be that big fucking elephant in the room we'll tippy toe around the problem.

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(March 22, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Amine Wrote: That or our intervention has actually helped and beaten back full-blown armageddon. That's more what I think. We have to constantly push back against the forces of anti-humanism and anti-civilization. If we stop, those forces will build up and mount the biggest attack possible and destroy us.

Ideologies cannot be imposed at gunpoint.

Yes they can. They demonstrably can.

(March 22, 2016 at 2:33 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(March 22, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Amine Wrote: That or our intervention has actually helped and beaten back full-blown armageddon. That's more what I think. We have to constantly push back against the forces of anti-humanism and anti-civilization. If we stop, those forces will build up and mount the biggest attack possible and destroy us.

Ideologies cannot be imposed at gunpoint.

Love yer, Thump, but history demonstrates just the opposite.

Boru

The muslim world did not get that way because they voted for it.