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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 22, 2016 at 3:15 pm
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(March 22, 2016 at 8:36 am)Alex K Wrote: What's the no? The no portion is in the breeders having had anything to do with it. They just got lucky, in that regard.
The same isn't true for the glyphosate inhibitor trait we call 'roundup ready". F1s rely on heterosis for their vigor (as you read) and thus their yield, RR crops enhance yield through interface with roundup. The cultivars themselves aren't particular sturdy (nor do they need to be). So, while saved f1 soy seed won't produce true to type, saved RR-Soy -will- preserve the trait that makes them valuable. This is why, if anyone ever wondered, additional protections under IP law have been established before commercialization for GMO crops. They're expensive to research and produce, and the patent holder has very little control beyond legal action on their product. A seedhouse sits safe in the knowledge that they control (as in physically control) the parent cultivars which produce the traits that give their f1 value.
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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 22, 2016 at 5:43 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 5:26 am)Mathilda Wrote: I've even spoken with Americans that wash their shop bought vegetables in Dawn.
I've been using ordinary, clean fresh water all my life. People wash vegetables with soap? That makes me wonder if I've been doing it wrong all of these years. 
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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 22, 2016 at 6:48 pm
(March 22, 2016 at 5:43 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (March 22, 2016 at 5:26 am)Mathilda Wrote: I've even spoken with Americans that wash their shop bought vegetables in Dawn.
I've been using ordinary, clean fresh water all my life. People wash vegetables with soap? That makes me wonder if I've been doing it wrong all of these years.
Totally wrong...
That will make you die of old age!
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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 23, 2016 at 6:29 am
(March 22, 2016 at 5:43 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (March 22, 2016 at 5:26 am)Mathilda Wrote: I've even spoken with Americans that wash their shop bought vegetables in Dawn.
I've been using ordinary, clean fresh water all my life. People wash vegetables with soap? That makes me wonder if I've been doing it wrong all of these years.
This is the thread (I posted as Skinty btw)
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/35949-ster.../?p=737379
Further down I posted the list of carcinogenic chemicals found in the washing up liquid.
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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 23, 2016 at 7:10 am
The mere presence of carcinogens is not very meaningful without a notion of the dose.
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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 23, 2016 at 7:27 am
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(March 23, 2016 at 7:10 am)Alex K Wrote: The mere presence of carcinogens is not very meaningful without a notion of the dose.
It's not a binary distinction between safe / not safe but a probability that can be increased or decreased.
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RE: GMO vs Organic
March 23, 2016 at 7:43 am
(March 23, 2016 at 7:27 am)Mathilda Wrote: (March 23, 2016 at 7:10 am)Alex K Wrote: The mere presence of carcinogens is not very meaningful without a notion of the dose.
It's not a binary distinction between safe / not safe but a probability that can be increased or decreased.
Absolutely
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