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What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 12:43 pm
I'm having an argument on facebook with someone who's telling me how terri-bad GMO's are. Problem is, she keeps citing as sources sites like Natural News; it's nothing but naturalistic fallacy after naturalistic fallacy on these sites! Yet when I point out real science and real scientists on the subject, I'm accused of ignoring the science and not knowing what I'm talking about.
*Facepalm*
Seriously, what do the people here think of GMO's?
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 12:49 pm
I don't know much about them.
The only argument I know that is against them is that Man shouldn't play god.
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 12:52 pm
(October 12, 2014 at 12:49 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: I don't know much about them.
The only argument I know that is against them is that Man shouldn't play god.
How would you define "playing god?"
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 12:54 pm
It seems to me that all science is considered playing god by some people
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Quote:How would you define "playing god?"
Doing nothing.
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 12:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2014 at 1:01 pm by TaraJo.)
Sounds about right.
For me, the first thing that I think of when people complain abuot GMO's is that we use GMO bacteria to produce insulin for diabetic patients. If we do away with GMO's, a lot of diabetics are gonna die.
(October 12, 2014 at 12:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:How would you define "playing god?"
Doing nothing.
Not if you're a Christian. In that case, "playing god" includes killing people for the slightest offense. Read 2Kings 2:23-24 for an example.
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 1:05 pm
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(October 12, 2014 at 12:54 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: It seems to me that all science is considered playing god by some people
Those people are considered idiots by much better sorts of people.
(October 12, 2014 at 12:49 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: I don't know much about them.
The only argument I know that is against them is that Man shouldn't play god.
No, men should get serious and be gods.
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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The anti-GMO crowd are the moon landing hoaxers of agriculture.
GMO's offer solutions for hunger, agricultural pollution, ecological damage, and economic destitution. They are tested rigorously, and in ways that most of the crops we grow have never been subjected to. They are safe, they are edible. There is no reasonable objection to GMO's themselves. While one might refer to the actions of the corporate giants that control the gmo seed - most of these stories are slightly less than factual as-told by the Anti-GMO crowd. Which is mystifying, because they're bad enough without embellishment.
We need more public funding for GMO research, and we need to insist that it produce public ip. Any sane food security policy would have to include this as a cornerstone. We should not be at the whims of random hybridization or individual farmers in search of the next robust grain cultivar, nor should this cultivar be the proprietary product of a single giant agribusiness. It's unfortunate, because alot of what fuels GMO Ag started out as research at public universities, but now we have a situation in which a few fairly unsavory corporate bodies have a deathgrip on what might be one of mankind's best ideas - in any field, of all time.
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 1:21 pm
I think the fear of GMOs is that the mods may interbreed with unmodified strains and weaken -- or homogenize -- the genome.
It seems like an unreasonable fear to me, but then again, most fears are unreasonable, right? I mean, you'd be hard-pressed to find a farmer interested in a modification which weakens his crop and impacts his bottom-line. The concern about homogeneity seems a little more rational, but even so, it's premised on the idea that GMOs would have vastly superior reproductive rates. It's my understanding that most mods are aimed at pestilence resistance.
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RE: What do you think of GMO's?
October 12, 2014 at 1:25 pm
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Resistance is a broad category, so most enhancements would be along those lines. They also engineer for yield-directly, drought tolerance, and fertility requirements.
(and yes, often fertility as well, as when the seed -is- the crop, it's a yield enhancement)
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