(March 15, 2011 at 3:05 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Why do you need to label anybody??

They are just people surrounded by circumstances

Some "read" their circumstances with more or less rationality than others.

(March 12, 2011 at 10:40 am)Tiberius Wrote: Since when was "anti-liberal" synonymous with "ultra conservative"? I'm a libertarian; I have ultra conservative views about the economy, but ultra liberal (often too liberal) views about society.

Put me down under "Classical liberal" (Classical liberalism).

Second that.

Me and Adrian are the Liberals here, however, because you fuckers stole our word we had to put the word "classical" before it to indicate we had it first!

Wankers

(March 15, 2011 at 2:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: To be described as suburban is less about geographical precision than attitude of mind. Village/ hamlet dwellers are suburbanites of the enhanced kind in my experience.

If a 5 house settlement now qualifies as suburban then what the fuck doesn't?

Please fr0d0, just start using words as intended rather than twisting the meaning when you're wrong.

(March 15, 2011 at 3:27 pm)theVOID Wrote:

(March 12, 2011 at 10:40 am)Tiberius Wrote: Since when was "anti-liberal" synonymous with "ultra conservative"? I'm a libertarian; I have ultra conservative views about the economy, but ultra liberal (often too liberal) views about society.

Put me down under "Classical liberal" (Classical liberalism).

Second that.

Me and Adrian are the Liberals here, however, because you fuckers stole our word we had to put the word "classical" before it to indicate we had it first!

Wankers

Hmmmm.... we have a lot of people who think they are liberal.... then do not support Unions and want the government to give cash to corporations here in the U.S.... are you sure you're not a fake liberal yourself (and Adrian)? You are libertarians aren't you? A lot of libertarians I know tend to not be and are authoritative (they are delusional)

(March 15, 2011 at 3:27 pm)theVOID Wrote: If a 5 house settlement now qualifies as suburban then what the fuck doesn't?

Please fr0d0, just start using words as intended rather than twisting the meaning when you're wrong.

Don't be a jerk VOID, you have no fucking idea.

Suburban = 5 homes...

And you're saying I have no fucking idea...

What's your address? I'll send you a dictionary, one with some circuitry so we can shock you whenever you decide to redefine a word in order to avoid admitting you used it wrong to being with. I'll pack some extra batteries and bang a solar and kinetic charger on it too, it's going to be pumping out a lot of juice at the rate you're going.

(March 15, 2011 at 3:33 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Hmmmm.... we have a lot of people who think they are liberal.... then do not support Unions and want the government to give cash to corporations here in the U.S.... are you sure you're not a fake liberal yourself (and Adrian)? You are libertarians aren't you? A lot of libertarians I know tend to not be and are authoritative (they are delusional)

You cannot be simultaneously authoritarian for corporate welfare AND be a libertarian, the people who are should rightly be called 'confused' instead, they espouse two contradictory ideas simultaneously.

(March 15, 2011 at 3:33 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Hmmmm.... we have a lot of people who think they are liberal.... then do not support Unions and want the government to give cash to corporations here in the U.S.... are you sure you're not a fake liberal yourself (and Adrian)? You are libertarians aren't you? A lot of libertarians I know tend to not be and are authoritative (they are delusional)

What theVOID was saying is that the word "liberal" used to mean actions that went against the state / church rule. Citing wikipedia (Libertarianism#History):

Wikipedia Wrote:During the 18th century Age of Enlightenment, "liberal" ideas flourished in Europe and North America; they challenged the rule of monarchs and the church and emphasizing reason, science, individual liberty, free markets, consent of the governed and limited government.

As for the libertarians you know, it is a case of them calling themselves something they are not. A libertarian by definition cannot be authoritarian (I believe that is the word you meant). Yes, there are lots of different beliefs held within libertarians, as is true of atheists as well. However, like with atheists, there is one common belief:

"all advocate either the minimization or the elimination of the state, and the goal of maximizing individual liberty and freedom."

So if these people are authoritative, they simply cannot be libertarians, just as someone who believes in God cannot be an atheist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLDYIy6Epdc

What the fuck... I was going to post this exact one.

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I know....... that's why I said they are delusional. What I meant to be said was that many libertarians only think they are libertarians because FoxNews told them they were and falsely parade around calling themselves libertarians, meanwhile they are moronic sheep. (This is in the U.S. not Europe, European sheeple tend to be more politically aware than our sheeple.)

Glenn Beck is certainly going to get fired now...

Since when has Cenk been on a real news network? His pronunciation sucks.

(March 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm)theVOID Wrote: Glenn Beck is certainly going to get fired now...

Since when has Cenk been on a real news network? His pronunciation sucks.

I don't know about that. Don't you think he would have been fired already if Fox was worried about their name? Fox loves the cash he brings in for them, and hell, I would too.

Also Cenk has been on MSNBC for a while.