(April 16, 2016 at 11:48 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 11:39 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Can he be banned yet?  Pretty please?  He brings everyone down.  

He's not breaking any rules, so far as I see. But then, I try to avoid him as much as possible, so if you see something, say something.

Ooooh, reconnaissance!!! I'm on it! [emoji1]

(April 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 3:22 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I spanked my son a few times as he was growing up, open hand only.

I can't watch the video right now, but the still shows what looks like a cricket bat being used to pummel a child. Completely wrong on several different levels.

Looked like a felony assault to me.  Sickening.

No actually it is all perfectly legal in most states.

(April 16, 2016 at 5:41 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: As usual, Dripshit has ignored all the recent studies on the long-term affects of corporal punishment, and just gone to his wholly babble verse.

Here is a relatively recent summary of current research (2006) compiled by Anne B. Smith:
https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-ou...4-127.html

Quotes from the article: 

"Physical or corporal punishment is the use of force to cause pain, but not injury, for the purpose of correction or control (Straus and Stewart 1999).  Discipline is the guidance of children’s moral, emotional and physical development, enabling children to take responsibility for themselves when they are older (Holden 2002, Wissow 2002). "

"Corporal punishment is associated with children’s aggression and other antisocial behaviour (towards peers, siblings and adults). Corporal punishment may legitimise violence for children in interpersonal relationships because they tend to internalise the social relations they experience (Vygotsky 1978). Ironically, the behaviour that parents are most likely to intend to prevent when they physically punish children is exactly the behaviour that they are likely to be strengthening." 

"Only one desirable outcome for child behaviour has been associated with physical punishment – in some, but not all, studies – and this outcome is immediate compliance. When compliance is just as easily (and effectively) achieved with alternative inductive and positive methods of child rearing and milder forms of punishment, it is unnecessary, risky and unethical to use physical punishment."

"Research on the long-term effects of physical punishment are consistent, and overwhelmingly negative over a wide variety of child development outcomes. The use of physical punishment has been associated with many negative social outcomes, including aggression, disruptive behaviour in school, lack of acceptance by peers, crime and delinquency. Children’s cognitive and intellectual development are also adversely affected by parental use of physical punishment. Physical punishment is linked to insecure attachment and poorer relationships between children and parents, and to a variety of mental health problems, such as anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation."

There is an impressive list of research studies following the article.

here's one that says the oppsite:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/sp...e-1.457285
(2010)

(April 16, 2016 at 6:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Pretty much this. My father is very authoritarian, and was fond of giving me the belt. Now I'm older, and I don't know how to deal with my nieces without hitting them too.

If you can deal with adults without hitting them, you can deal with children without hitting them.

Think of it like this:  A child performs a behaviour that you deem undesirable or even dangerous and you hit the child to stop the behaviour and elicit what is, in your view, a more appropriate or safe behaviour.  If you did that to an adult, you'd be arrested.

Boru

only if you submit to the child as you would another adult.

(April 18, 2016 at 8:38 am)Drich Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Looked like a felony assault to me.  Sickening.

No actually it is all perfectly legal in most states.

Just like the rich the religious, even if not all, far too many don't understand the difference between legal and moral, and treat everything as a blanket solution. 

I know what physical abuse did to me and to my dad he had no clue what he was doing to me. He like many parents thought it was "tough love". But unless you have a clinical psychology, psychiatry degree you have no real understanding what even your "good intent" with "tough love" can do to a child.  You cannot treat all kids as the same. Just because you get submission by force does not make it moral. 

Might does not make right, it simply makes you a bully.

(April 16, 2016 at 7:14 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 11:56 am)Drich Wrote: This warms the heart to see this little brat being held accountable to his actions. There is hope in those tears IF and only if the parents show the same consistent resolve at home!

If you Spare the rod, You will Spoil (make no good) a Child!

Of course you think that: you're an authoritarian bully with no intellectual means of getting a point across or teaching anyone, anything. You have nothing positive to say, nothing of real value to give to the world, and so the inherent negativity of your nature comes across in everything you do. You'll hit a kid because you don't know how to teach and just want to enforce obedience without helping the kid learn right and wrong. You'll base your positions and arguments here around the bible because you have no real intellectual wherewithal and thus need to rely on borrowed authority. You'll assume bigoted stances and wish them imposed upon others by law because you can't argue your case rationally and, as with your apparent love of spanking, care more that people act like they agree with you, rather than actually changing their minds.

Just take, take, take, that's all your kind can do. Sap away the happiness of others, reduce and subtract from their wellbeing to sate your own petty beliefs, just devour people whole to make yourself feel better. That's all religion is, at its core.

ah, no.
Smacking a kid is just a tool in the parental tool box. one I am not willing to throw away. It's not my go to tool for every situation or even every child. Because all children are different and some have the capacity to be reasoned with while other do not. Pain in the great equalizer here. whether you have a smart kid or a slow one pain communicates most often where words fail. Meaning a good swat (with a cricket bat apparently) is a last resort for an unruly child.

The reason the boy in the video was paddled was because he was running out into the street durning dismissal (busses and cars entering and leaving the school), and when caught kick the teacher who caught him and spit in her face when she tried to 'reason' with the little monster.

This child does not have the mental acuity to be reasoned with in the time the general school dismissal was taking place. solution a good solid smack from the cricket bat on the B-hind.

What does it teach accountability. Now how many more times do you think will this little kid run out in the street, kick the teacher who catches him, and spits in her face if he knows he will face that bat each and every time?

(April 16, 2016 at 7:24 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 7:19 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: So you're trolling now.

Ok.

He's been going down that slope for some time. It's just lately, though, that it's become glaringly obvious that he's given up any pretense of actual discussion and will troll to get the attention he obviously craves.

what are you talking about these are legit issues in the news. Everything I have posted I firmly believe. do you really look at the world and think everyone a troll who does not agree with you?

(April 16, 2016 at 8:17 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 6:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If you can deal with adults without hitting them, you can deal with children without hitting them.

Think of it like this:  A child performs a behaviour that you deem undesirable or even dangerous and you hit the child to stop the behaviour and elicit what is, in your view, a more appropriate or safe behaviour.  If you did that to an adult, you'd be arrested.

Boru

Hit a child, and it's called discipline. Hit an adult, and it's called assault. I think that's the main reason they pick the rear end to hit as well, because you get a different reaction when you hit a kid in a place where the public can see it.

what is missing between hitting a child and hitting an adult?

Correction, Instruction and love. You hit an adult out of anger.

(April 18, 2016 at 8:58 am)Drich Wrote: what are you talking about these are legit issues in the news. Everything I have posted I firmly believe.

Which only makes it the more disgusting and all the more reason not to give anything coming from your corner any serious consideration. Thanks for pointing out loud and clear what your morality - or should I say depravity - really is.

The thought of you trolling was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for clarifying that doubt is entirely misplaced in everything you say.

I really wonder what has to go wrong in one's childhood to become like this Drich guy. Get beaten to pulp every day while being threatened with hellfire? It's got to be something severe.