Sadness.
A friend posted this on Facebook.  She is an intelligent woman - very pleasant.  At one time I would have agreed with the sentiment.  Now I just find it a little heartbreaking. Imagine living your entire life, focused only on an un-provable fantasy about what will happen to you after death. And the only important thing in your life is keeping an imaginary sky-daddy happy so you get to go to the good place after you die.
   I have personally witnessed the misery and evil that this mindset creates. I have witnessed families torn apart by parents who believe that god will send them to hell if they don't disown their children. I have witnessed the fear of children, praying to be "good enough" so they will get into heaven instead of burning. When will this madness end?

I get maybe half a dozen bullshit posts like that appearing on my news feed every day.

The ones that pissed me off are the emotional blackmail ones "Like =1 prayer. Share = 10 prayers. Ignore if you're heartless"

I don't like, share, or ignore. I generally comment, "I don't like emotional blackmail".

(April 28, 2016 at 3:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I get maybe half a dozen bullshit posts like that appearing on my news feed every day.

The ones that pissed me off are the emotional blackmail ones "Like =1 prayer.  Share = 10 prayers.  Ignore if you're heartless"

I don't like, share, or ignore.  I generally comment, "I don't like emotional blackmail".

I find these to be hilarious because I'm sure god really gives a fuck about the weakest form of slacktivism there is.

I'm so glad I don't have facebook.  My faith in people I know who use facebook would take a major dip.

"Like = 1 Prayer, Share = 10 Prayers Ignore = Heartless"
My response would have to be "Why does it take more than one prayer?  It says in your bible that you can move mountains if you have just a little bit of faith.  Besides I thought it was all part of god's plan.  So you're just asking him to change his plan.  Guess his plan must really suck."

These things give me the ability to secretly judge people and feel superior to them.

I bet St.Vincente is disappointed.

(April 28, 2016 at 3:07 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Sadness.
A friend posted this on Facebook.  She is an intelligent woman - very pleasant.  At one time I would have agreed with the sentiment.  Now I just find it a little heartbreaking. Imagine living your entire life, focused only on an un-provable fantasy about what will happen to you after death. And the only important thing in your life is keeping an imaginary sky-daddy happy so you get to go to the good place after you die.
   I have personally witnessed the misery and evil that this mindset creates. I have witnessed families torn apart by parents who believe that god will send them to hell if they don't disown their children. I have witnessed the fear of children, praying to be "good enough" so they will get into heaven instead of burning. When will this madness end?

I have some problems understanding your reasoning, if you allow me. "And the only important thing in your life is keeping an imaginary sky-daddy happy so you get to go to the good place after you die. And the only important thing in your life is keeping an imaginary sky-daddy happy so you get to go to the good place after you die.", " I have personally witnessed the misery and evil that this mindset creates. I have witnessed families torn apart by parents who believe that god will send them to hell if they don't disown their children. I have witnessed the fear of children, praying to be "good enough" so they will get into heaven instead of burning."

Can you explain to me the nature of these theologically wrong bolded prepositions? It is becoming clear to me that you do not, in fact, "hate this madness called christianity", but you have made an idea of what christianity is (in your head) and you are attacking theology based on your own idea, not the original one. Can you read this? https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2god...kalomiros/

(April 29, 2016 at 9:00 am)Wryetui Wrote: Can you explain to me the nature of these theologically wrong bolded prepositions?

Theologically wrong according to whom? It's not like there is one "consensus theology" that a significant fraction of Christians agree upon. And even if- I'd wager that most real life Christians don't concern themselves much with what hair splitting theologians do in their learned works.

(April 29, 2016 at 9:46 am)Alex K Wrote:

(April 29, 2016 at 9:00 am)Wryetui Wrote: Can you explain to me the nature of these theologically wrong bolded prepositions?

Theologically wrong according to whom? It's not like there is one "consensus theology" that a significant fraction of Christians agree upon. And even if- I'd wager that most real life Christians don't concern themselves much with what hair splitting theologians do in their learned works.

According to the theology of the early Church, that is still alive and well in what we call today the Orthodox Church, as well as in part of the Catholic Church and the Non-Chalcedonian Churches. That is the theology that existed from the beginning, that of the Capadoccian fathers and the other Church Fathers.

(April 29, 2016 at 9:00 am)Wryetui Wrote: I have some problems understanding your reasoning, if you allow me. "And the only important thing in your life is keeping an imaginary sky-daddy happy so you get to go to the good place after you die. And the only important thing in your life is keeping an imaginary sky-daddy happy so you get to go to the good place after you die.", " I have personally witnessed the misery and evil that this mindset creates. I have witnessed families torn apart by parents who believe that god will send them to hell if they don't disown their children. I have witnessed the fear of children, praying to be "good enough" so they will get into heaven instead of burning."

Can you explain to me the nature of these theologically wrong bolded prepositions? It is becoming clear to me that you do not, in fact, "hate this madness called christianity", but you have made an idea of what christianity is (in your head) and you are attacking theology based on your own idea, not the original one. Can you read this? https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2god...kalomiros/

Ah, one of these.


He's right, dude. Your religion is a death cult that touts cruelty, evil, and spiritual threats. You have simply done the mental gymnastics/been indoctrinated to such an extent that you don't see this.


Yes, according to your religion, the only point of Earthly life is so god can decide whether to burn you, and the only way to stop him is to placate his demands.


Yes, according to your religion, Jehovah sends people to Hell. They do not send themselves.


If a robber sticks a gun in my chest and says he'll kill me if I don't give him all my money, am I killing myself if I refuse him?


There is no such thing as correct theology. God is a lie.