(May 16, 2016 at 12:14 pm)pool the great Wrote:

LadyForCamus Wrote:Entirely related, as your whole argument hinges on the idea that women were never oppressed in the first place and that feminism is pointless.

I stopped reading after that. My whole argument hinges on the idea that feminism is pointless. The other part was a strawman from your part.
It's funny because you refute my argument for why feminism is the most pointless movement by citing how women weren't allowed to vote some 50 years ago.
It's like you think we need feminism NOW for oppression that happened 50 years ago. I don't get you at all.

Clearly we are not understanding each other at all. I'm am still trying to figure out what your position is here. I don't understand whether you agree that the women's suffrage movement was needed and worth while because women were actually oppressed at one point in the past, and that current feminism is pointless because women have already earned all their rights, OR you don't believe that women have ever been oppressed in the US. Or...some other position I can't think of.

In other words, are you saying feminism was always pointless, or just pointless today?

(May 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I was more amused by his confusing "suffrage" with "suffering".

Might be that he confused Suffragettes with suffering. Suffragettes would be a major no no for the likes of him.

(May 16, 2016 at 12:30 pm)pool the great Wrote: Also, I'm grateful for everyone pointing out my mistake. Because I'm never in my life ever going to confuse those two words again. Although English is my fourth language, I have high standards for myself, so thank you everyone for raising my standards even higher.


Boy, I'm feeling like a boss.  :')

You have to admit it was funny. Its like your fingers typed the truth by mistake. I lol'd

(May 16, 2016 at 6:05 pm)abaris Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I was more amused by his confusing "suffrage" with "suffering".

Might be that he confused Suffragettes with suffering. Suffragettes would be a major no no for the likes of him.

Might we say that suffragettes cause him suffering?

(May 16, 2016 at 7:34 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Might we say that suffragettes cause him suffering?

Not far off the mark I would say.

(May 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 12:14 pm)pool the great Wrote: I stopped reading after that. My whole argument hinges on the idea that feminism is pointless. The other part was a strawman from your part.
It's funny because you refute my argument for why feminism is the most pointless movement by citing how women weren't allowed to vote some 50 years ago.
It's like you think we need feminism NOW for oppression that happened 50 years ago. I don't get you at all.

Clearly we are not understanding each other at all. I'm am still trying to figure out what your position is here. I don't understand whether you agree that the women's suffrage movement was needed and worth while because women were actually oppressed at one point in the past, and that current feminism is pointless because women have already earned all their rights, OR you don't believe that women have ever been oppressed in the US. Or...some other position I can't think of.

In other words, are you saying feminism was always pointless, or just pointless today?

When I say feminism is pointless I mean the feminism that we have today.

(May 16, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Losty Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 12:24 pm)pool the great Wrote: @Losty,  
With all due respect, I've been proven again and again why debating you is pointless.
You change you positions instantly, first you said that feminism was about fighting rights for women and men equally. Then Evie shows up with a definition that feminism is a movement that is aimed at fighting for women's rights in light of gender equality, so naturally you change your position again. I asked you two questions and you just ghosted. I could go on but I digress.

Lol you're so cute. Feminism, to me, is the believe that all human beings should have equal rights combined with the belief that women are human beings.

You can provide a hundred million articles of people who disagree but it doesn't matter because, clearly, I don't agree with them. There's no feminism club for me just like there's no atheist club. I don't subscribe to any set of beliefs given by any person who says "if you're X you have to believe Y"

I have told you time and time again. I'd say I'm a feminist based on the definition I know, but I only think whatever I know to be true in my idgaf what anyone else thinks or what anyone thinks I should think.

That's cool :-)
I'm a Christian but I don't believe in Jesus. My belief is that there are no God's. It doesn't matter if you cite the many hundredths if not thousands of Christians that go to church and worship Jesus, it doesn't apply to me, clearly I don't agree with them, there is no Christian club for me, like I said, I'm a Christian based on the definition that I know, idgaf about anything else because... Cake.
Sounds familiar?

(May 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I was more amused by his confusing "suffrage" with "suffering".

Holy shit. I didn't even realize it, thanks for pointing it out.

(May 16, 2016 at 9:51 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Losty Wrote: Lol you're so cute. Feminism, to me, is the believe that all human beings should have equal rights combined with the belief that women are human beings.

You can provide a hundred million articles of people who disagree but it doesn't matter because, clearly, I don't agree with them. There's no feminism club for me just like there's no atheist club. I don't subscribe to any set of beliefs given by any person who says "if you're X you have to believe Y"

I have told you time and time again. I'd say I'm a feminist based on the definition I know, but I only think whatever I know to be true in my idgaf what anyone else thinks or what anyone thinks I should think.

That's cool :-)
I'm a Christian but I don't believe in Jesus. My belief is that there are no God's. It doesn't matter if you cite the many hundredths if not thousands of Christians that go to church and worship Jesus, it doesn't apply to me, clearly I don't agree with them, there is no Christian club for me, like I said, I'm a Christian based on the definition that I know, idgaf about anything else because... Cake.
Sounds familiar?

Sure. Feel free to point to me a dictionary definition that supports your beliefs.

(May 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Clearly we are not understanding each other at all.  I'm am still trying to figure out what your position is here.  I don't understand whether you agree that the women's suffrage movement was needed and worth while because women were actually oppressed at one point in the past, and that current feminism is pointless because women have already earned all their rights, OR you don't believe that women have ever been oppressed in the US.  Or...some other position I can't think of.  

In other words, are you saying feminism was always pointless, or just pointless today?

When I say feminism is pointless I mean the feminism that we have today.

Women wanting to be on equal grounds with men? How dare they!!!