(May 16, 2016 at 9:51 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 2:17 pm)Losty Wrote: Lol you're so cute. Feminism, to me, is the believe that all human beings should have equal rights combined with the belief that women are human beings.

You can provide a hundred million articles of people who disagree but it doesn't matter because, clearly, I don't agree with them. There's no feminism club for me just like there's no atheist club. I don't subscribe to any set of beliefs given by any person who says "if you're X you have to believe Y"

I have told you time and time again. I'd say I'm a feminist based on the definition I know, but I only think whatever I know to be true in my idgaf what anyone else thinks or what anyone thinks I should think.

That's cool :-)
I'm a Christian but I don't believe in Jesus. My belief is that there are no God's. It doesn't matter if you cite the many hundredths if not thousands of Christians that go to church and worship Jesus, it doesn't apply to me, clearly I don't agree with them, there is no Christian club for me, like I said, I'm a Christian based on the definition that I know, idgaf about anything else because... Cake.
Sounds familiar?

Your poor attempt at sarcasm would only work had she said something like being a feminist but not believing in women's rights.

(May 16, 2016 at 9:52 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I was more amused by his confusing "suffrage" with "suffering".

Holy shit. I didn't even realize it, thanks for pointing it out.

If such a simple problem confounded you, I wonder how much more you don't realize.

A majority of men are pigs, there's a lot of woman who are shameful too their gender as well.

(May 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm)Sterben Wrote: A majority of men are pigs, there's a lot of woman who are shameful too their gender as well.

Huh?

(May 16, 2016 at 11:26 pm)Sterben Wrote: A majority of men are pigs, there's a lot of woman who are shameful too their gender as well.

I disagree. I would said the vast majority of men are just normal people. With a small percentage being especially good/bad and a tiny percentage being amazing/terrible

I also think think the good guys outweigh the bad guys but I don't have any sources for that because there's no real way to measure goodness

(May 16, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Irrational Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm)pool the great Wrote: When I say feminism is pointless I mean the feminism that we have today.

Women wanting to be on equal grounds with men? How dare they!!!

Death palm.
Dude, fifty years ago "fighting" (which was basically women getting into groups and complaining to get more stuff) for women's rights made sense, because women were denied rights(like the right to vote) . How many times do I have to say (with sources) that not only women have the same rights as men today but enjoy vastly more perks, societal support, law enforcement support,court support THAN men.

Are you really unable to understand how pointless,even dumb, it is to fight for women's rights in a country that give equal rights to everyone regardless of gender, race, religion etc?

(May 16, 2016 at 11:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 9:52 pm)pool the great Wrote: Holy shit. I didn't even realize it, thanks for pointing it out.

If such a simple problem confounded you, I wonder how much more you don't realize.

Thump, if anyone, I don't care if it's a 3 year old or a 80 year old, gives me 1 valid reason as to why my views are wrong, I will not throw a rage fit for pointing my mistake out, I will not insult them, I will be humbled, I will accept their reasoning, thank them for pointing it out and move on. I know people aren't like that, people would rather be right just for the sake of being right,I'm not like that,you can look at my previous posts and you'll see for yourself.

I have not seen 1 valid reason from anyone here. The whole posts can be summarized as those that get mad at me, throw a rage fit over my views, call me a "Fucking idiot" , post pointless smileys, I could go on but I digress.

Show me one valid reason thump.

(May 17, 2016 at 1:04 am)pool the great Wrote: Thump, if anyone, I don't care if it's a 3 year old or a 80 year old, gives me 1 valid reason as to why my views are wrong, I will not throw a rage fit for pointing my mistake out, I will not insult them, I will be humbled, I will accept their reasoning, thank them for pointing it out and move on. I know people aren't like that, people would rather be right just for the sake of being right,I'm not like that,you can look at my previous posts and you'll see for yourself.

Actually, I can't. I see a young man, diffident and throwing out a loud voice in an effort to convince himself of the rightness of his own views.

(May 17, 2016 at 1:04 am)pool the great Wrote: I have not seen 1 valid reason from anyone here. The whole posts can be summarized as those that get mad at me, throw a rage fit over my views, call me a "Fucking idiot" , post pointless smileys, I could go on but I digress.

Show me one valid reason thump.

You've been shown many valid reasons already, in this thread and in others. If you cannot see their validity, okay -- carry on, wot-wot. Your mentoring is not my responsibility. You can keep your own filters up if you like, and see things only as you wish, as you've been doing here, or you can make an effort to step outside yourself and see things from another point of view. That decision is yours alone ... but make no mistake, if you are public in your denigration of an entire class of people, you will get pushback, and I will be in there.

I will tell you from experience: as I grew older, I learnt the hard way to value the women in my life more, and to not relegate them to the ornamental status which seems to be their place in your life. What you see as adoration is seen by many women as paternalistic condescension. If you really want to learn the views of women, of all sorts, you'd do best to drop your filters and simply listen.

It works for me, and has made me a better man for it.

But hey, it's your life. If you want to ignore the views of women, it's all good. I mean, they're only 51% of humankind. Have your heyday.

Thump, I was talking about feminism not my personal life with women.

(May 17, 2016 at 12:51 am)pool the great Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Irrational Wrote: Women wanting to be on equal grounds with men? How dare they!!!

Death palm.
Dude, fifty years ago "fighting" (which was basically women getting into groups and complaining to get more stuff) for women's rights made sense, because women were denied rights(like the right to vote) . How many times do I have to say (with sources) that not only women have the same rights as men today but enjoy vastly more perks, societal support, law enforcement support,court support THAN men.

Are you really unable to understand how pointless,even dumb, it is to fight for women's rights in a country that give equal rights to everyone regardless of gender, race, religion etc?

No that's simply not true. Not in India or any of the rest of the third world.

Also, calling women's rights activists from 50+ years ago a group of women complaining to get more stuff makes you a bit of a Douchenozzle in my most humble opinion.