(May 23, 2016 at 12:00 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(May 22, 2016 at 11:57 pm)Losty Wrote: No. You are incorrect. Retard as a verb is one thing. While saying "mentally retarded" isn't very PC it is, in general, not a derogatory term. When you call someone "a retard" as a noun it is an insult and is defined as such in most dictionaries. It is only used as in insult or a means to incite negative emotions/drama and/or by someone extremely ignorant and/or old who has been living under a rock for about 20-30 years.

Why do I even bother responding. I'm about to facedesk. Give me a second.

Knock yourself out

(May 22, 2016 at 11:59 pm)Iroscato Wrote: I see you have become no less of an awkward, adversarial bastard during my exile, EP

Ok, for nth time, I'll try making my point without getting in any arguments with anyone. I believe I already did make my point about something earlier, no one succeeded in changing my mind about it, so I'll just let it lie. Thanks for that, Iroscato, you're a peach!

I'll just say this and let it go. Losty, you missed everything I said in my post since you apparently used exactly what I said as an argument to get back at me, which, of course, not only didn't work but didn't make any sense.


But that's it. I'm a bastard and a moron, that must be it.

Sorry, no martyrdom for you.

(May 23, 2016 at 12:05 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(May 22, 2016 at 11:59 pm)Iroscato Wrote: I see you have become no less of an awkward, adversarial bastard during my exile, EP

Ok, for nth time, I'll try making my point without getting in any arguments with anyone. I believe I already did make my point about something earlier, no one succeeded in changing my mind about it, so I'll just let it lie. Thanks for that, Iroscato, you're a peach!

No I totally got your point. I just happen to disagree with you. I don't understand why calling someone a retard would only be offensive if they're not mentally disabled. It's insulting to those mentally disabled people who are capable of understanding and insulting to the loved ones of those who are not. I know you don't care about people's feelings and you think everyone should live their lives with no regard for anyone's feelings but their own, and I am happy to agree to disagree on this point. No argument

(May 23, 2016 at 12:00 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(May 22, 2016 at 11:57 pm)Losty Wrote: No. You are incorrect. Retard as a verb is one thing. While saying "mentally retarded" isn't very PC it is, in general, not a derogatory term. When you call someone "a retard" as a noun it is an insult and is defined as such in most dictionaries. It is only used as in insult or a means to incite negative emotions/drama and/or by someone extremely ignorant and/or old who has been living under a rock for about 20-30 years.

Why do I even bother responding. I'm about to facedesk. Give me a second.

I'm not going to engage someone who is being deliberately dishonest and manipulative in order to win a point. I'd have to write a block of text to explain everything that you missed in my post, like I did in the past, but I learned my lesson.

Oh how I love when you go back and add a ton of bullshit into your post after it has already been responded to. You sneaky litta penguin you
* Losty peeps EP's cute litta penguin nose "peep peep!"

Boy, this thread exploded right immediately. It's so long now. It's hard to concisely get at everything. I had thought of making a YouTube on this, but...well...so much to distill now.

I am physically disabled, or at least that was the term for folks like me when I was born and raised in the late 70's and 80's and early 90's. Nowadays, it's apparently "PWD", which is something I had a hard time getting used to when I first heard it. But now, I'm perfectly OK with it. And I'm still OK with "disabled". For reasons I cannot really pinpoint, I am not OK with "cripple/crippled, maimed, invalid, etc.". It's like me calling a black/African American person a "negro" or worse, a "nigger". 

PC is a rather hard thing to achieve. The fact is, we are always going to step on eachother's toes at some point, I don't care how socially liberal you are. I accept that. I don't have a right to be free from being offended. Is there a flip side to that? I think maybe so. I feel like we should at least try to be respectful of eachother as human beings. This does not mean to bow down to a wheeler or crutcher or other disabled person, or to a black person or woman or LGBT person or whomever, but at least try to understand where a person is coming from.

As for atheists and the intellectually disabled (formerly mentally retarded), well...I don't ever want kids. But if I did, I'd want the head cheerleader and/or head quarterback as my daughter/son. I, like most of you, would not want to put up with my kid having physical or cognitive problems. As for whether to abort, it's all up to my wife, pending a discussion, because it's my kid, too. At some point, the baby's quality of life needs to be talked about. My quality of life is below average, but I find this phase of eternity pretty fascinating. We can see it, hear it, feel it, smell it, etc. (most of us, anyway). At times, I fear death for that .000001% chance we atheists missed the boat on something regarding the afterlife. 

But again, QOL needs to be talked about. And parents' QOL as well. Some folks aren't up to that challenge, but if resources are found, it can be fine, I'm sure. Communities exist in the form of associations representing many disabilities, and therein lies the cultural resource many need.

I should have diagrammed some notes for this. Sorry for the rambling. As you were. Maybe I'll BBL.

I always try to be PC, until I just don't care. And you'll always know when I just don't care.

I believe me not caring is a part of me being human and what I am experiencing in life more than what the offended individual may think of me.

Perhaps I am going through a hard time in my life.

The only time anyone is truly empathetic of others is when there is a clear death sentence.

Cancer patients who know they are dying, because the treatments are not working, learn real fast how to cope and comfort others around them.

If I am experiencing a particularly troublesome time in my life, I am not thinking of others. Rather, I am thinking of how I can better my life and really stepping hard on everyone in my way.

That's life.

FYI, we all have a death sentence

(May 23, 2016 at 12:25 am)Losty Wrote: FYI, we all have a death sentence

Speak for yerself, love. I am eternal.