(June 1, 2016 at 9:54 am)Gemini Wrote:

(June 1, 2016 at 9:49 am)Drich Wrote: Now ask yourself why do 'we' get a pass for killing women and children to make our lives better...

We don't.

apparently we do, or was their a war crimes tribunal held to prosecute General Le may for the fire bombings and President Truman that i know nothing about?

Le-May was recorded saying "If we'd lost the war we'd all be hung as war criminals." By this admission He knew 'we' would give him a pass for what 'had' to be done then.

https://justice4germans.com/2015/02/20/g...criminals/

This does not even address the women and children that we do indeed target as enemy combatants today. So again Why do 'we' get a pass. Meaning why does policy allow the targeting of women and children if it is such an ABSOLUTE Immoral thing?

Or are you one who believes only Men are allowed to fight for Allah? That ISIS only recruits uniformed soldiers, and that a woman or a child in the History of the war on terror has never raised a hand against any western culture?

The problem with you guys is that you live in a little box of ever changing absolutes, but treat them as being unchanging when you hypocritically judge someone out side of your little circle by them. You seldom if EVER judge yourself by your own standards. When you do you all are either shocked or deny your involvement/benfits from these supposed 'absolutes.'

Ah yes, the ole Drich "Because some people do bad things and get away with it, none of us can call anything in the Bible immoral." Talk about moral relativism.

Quote: why not just create serving humanoids with no sentience?

They are called religitards.  See Dripshit's comment above for an example.

Quote:The account in 2 Kings in of itself is indeed evidence.

"Amateurs study tactics.
Professionals study logistics.
Assholes study the fucking bible."

(June 1, 2016 at 11:28 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ah yes, the ole Drich "Because some people do bad things and get away with it, none of us can call anything in the Bible immoral."  Talk about moral relativism.

No, it's WE get away with and justify doing "bad things" by running our actions through a spin doctor and relabel our actions, (or we just don't talk about them) and we give ourselves a pass, but harshly judge those who don't dress their actions in the proper way, yet are no more guilty than 'we' are.

Ie Hypocrites!

Unless you can directly address the reason it is ok for the US to kill/Target Hundreds of of women and children and it is not ok for God to do the same.

How is that not 'moral relativism?'

Are you ready to judge yourselves with the same standard in which you judge God?

(June 1, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:The account in 2 Kings in of itself is indeed evidence.

"Amateurs study tactics.
Professionals study logistics.
Assholes study the fucking bible."

Logistics such as???

Too complicated for the likes of you.

Think of how you supply water to a 185,000 man army in a semi-arid region which could support at most a population of 10,000?

Then remember that armies have to eat, too.

(June 1, 2016 at 2:14 pm)Drich Wrote:

(June 1, 2016 at 11:28 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ah yes, the ole Drich "Because some people do bad things and get away with it, none of us can call anything in the Bible immoral."  Talk about moral relativism.

Unless you can directly address the reason it is ok for the US to kill/Target Hundreds of of women and children and it is not ok for God to do the same.

It's not okay.

I'll say it for the zillionth time.  There is no need to justify God, apologize or make excuses for him.  The punishment for sin is death and it's inherent in the human race.  If you can't accept that then you can't accept the christian God.  I'd rather die by the sword than by countless many ways that people die.  I must live my life in an imperfect world and then die, and God could alleviate that, but he doesn't because I suffer the consequences of sin.  When this life is over we'll have  much better life thanks to Jesus.  A christian must accept that God has the right to punish us and that he is just in doing so.  Thankfully, no one is forced to accept that, but it is an essential doctrine of christianity.

(June 1, 2016 at 3:17 pm)Lek Wrote: I'll say it for the zillionth time.  There is no need to justify God, apologize or make excuses for him.  The punishment for sin is death and it's inherent in the human race.  If you can't accept that then you can't accept the christian God.  I'd rather die by the sword than by countless many ways that people die.  I must live my life in an imperfect world and then die, and God could alleviate that, but he doesn't because I suffer the consequences of sin.  When this life is over we'll have  much better life thanks to Jesus.  A christian must accept that God has the right to punish us and that he is just in doing so.  Thankfully, no one is forced to accept that, but it is an essential doctrine of christianity.

No need to justify god, but you do have a need to provide some evidence that he is not a figment of your imagination. Why should I accept your god and not zeus or allah or neptune or any of the thousands of other gods men have invented?