(May 30, 2016 at 10:13 pm)carusmm Wrote: The Bible is absurd, it is unintentionally funny.  The Bible contains unicorns, satyrs and talking donkeys, it's a bit like Shrek.

The Bible itself says that the stories are meant for entertainment.  Their purpose is to teach complete obedience and and belief without exception.

If someone is an atheist, then they can have no basis for objective morality. I'm not saying that they cannot be "moral," but I am saying that they can have no objective basis for morality. With this being said, so many people say that if God were to exist, then He would be evil. By saying that He is evil, you would be making an objective judgment of Him, showing your belief in such things as objective morals, which cannot have a basis in atheism.

If objective morals exist, so does God.

Just food for thought.

Name an objective moral.

(June 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Name an objective moral.

I was merely referring to people above me saying that God is/would be evil.

I would assume that you would agree that some things are "evil," such as rape and whatnot. If not, then you would be a moral nihilist and would believe that there is nothing technically wrong with such things.

So LOT, as you saying that good people who are not religious are still good because of God's embedded objective morality within all of us? Or are you saying that we cannot be good unless we've been indoctrinated?

I'm saying that objective morality comes from God. Without Him there is no basis for objective morality. I would NEVER say that an atheist cannot be a moral person. That would be ridiculous. I am only saying that if someone acknowledges that objective morals exist, they must also acknowledge the basis for them: God.

Oh goody. Objective morality again. Yay.

(June 1, 2016 at 5:59 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Oh goody. Objective morality again. Yay.

What is wrong with discussing it if you don't mind me asking? Do you deny objective moral truths?

(June 1, 2016 at 5:22 pm)Light of Truth Wrote:

(June 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Name an objective moral.

I was merely referring to people above me saying that God is/would be evil.

I would assume that you would agree that some things are "evil," such as rape and whatnot. If not, then you would be a moral nihilist and would believe that there is nothing technically wrong with such things.

Really?  Because your precious bible treats rape as a property crime. 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...y+22:28-29

Quote:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Or how about when god says its just fucking cool?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=KJV

Quote: Isaiah 13:15-16King James Version (KJV)
15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Want to re-think your example?

(June 1, 2016 at 6:03 pm)Light of Truth Wrote:

(June 1, 2016 at 5:59 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Oh goody. Objective morality again. Yay.

What is wrong with discussing it if you don't mind me asking? Do you deny objective moral truths?

Nothing is wrong with discussing it, as evidenced by the three-hundred thousand multiple-page threads we already have on the topic. You might think you have something new to bring to the table, but I pretty much guarantee you don't. The search function is your friend.