Well, the news this morning said everyone can expect their 401k's to be we worth a few thousand less at the end of the day. I hope you Brits know what you're doing.

I know one thing for certain. I sure as shit wouldn't want the American general populace voting on something with such complex and far-reaching economic implications.

(June 24, 2016 at 8:54 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 8:52 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'm not sure if this has been touched upon in this thread already, but what were the voting demographics like?  I've heard a bunch of people say that the vast majority of the 18-34 age group voted to stay in the EU, while the majority of people who voted Leave will be dead in 20-25 years anyway.  

pocaracas posted the stats. Yes, the young folks voted remain. 68 percent, if I'm not mistaken. It's quite a few pages back.

Thanks! I'll go digging back there.

(June 24, 2016 at 8:46 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 8:28 am)madog Wrote: It is accepted that vaping is 95% safer than smoking, and could save billions of lives, but it loses lots of tax revenue for the EU indirectly.

Could you show me any actual evidence for that? Because the only research I've seen was a study done on twenty smokers which was so badly designed as to have no control group to work a baseline off of.

Now, vaping will probably end up being less damaging than smoking, but the research on it is so bad we cannot say for certain.

This isn't really the issue, and would go off topic, but I'll give an example https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cig...ark-review

My argument is not to do with vaping, its the fact that the EU have introduced a complete advertising ban ..... This is presently being challenged by many Lord in three regret motions and originally a fatal motion ...

If you believe in "freedom of expression" (speech) the EU have now crossed that line 

(June 24, 2016 at 8:55 am)Faith No More Wrote: Well, the news this morning said everyone can expect their 401k's to be we worth a few thousand less at the end of the day.  I hope you Brits know what you're doing.

Deeply divided society. Like so many these days. Might be the only time when I find a bible quote rather fitting: Forgive them for they know not what they do!

That's what the remainers have to cope with in any case.

Petition: Declare London independent from the UK and apply to join the EU.

(June 24, 2016 at 8:57 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 8:54 am)abaris Wrote: pocaracas posted the stats. Yes, the young folks voted remain. 68 percent, if I'm not mistaken. It's quite a few pages back.

Thanks! I'll go digging back there.

I think this is it.

(June 24, 2016 at 8:53 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 8:35 am)madog Wrote: [...]There are good things about most dictatorships, but that doesn't make up for the fact you can't challenge their failings

So you consider European Union "a dictatorship" and you justify this by ranting about vaping... Yeah - you sound totally rational. 

The EU can make Directives that EU nations have to adhere too or they are sanctioned until they comply .... They are self regulating, they are not responsible to ECHR etc ... what do you call that?

(June 24, 2016 at 8:59 am)Mathilda Wrote: Petition: Declare London independent from the UK and apply to join the EU.

Not gonna happen. But kudos for the thought.

(June 24, 2016 at 8:46 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 8:39 am)Tiberius Wrote: You know, you claim this wasn't about xenophobia and then you say shit like that. Your words betray you.

Xenophobia is the prejudice against or the dislike of people from other countries. She's from the same bloody country as me and you'll notice that I support immigration, just not mass immigration.

She obviously doesn't like it here enough to stay and that's fine. Good luck with her journey and future in Europe. You remain supporters are all the fucking same, smearing your opponents at every opportunity.

I respect you Tibs, but don't be an idiot.

Perhaps you should read what you wrote again? You told her to renounce her British citizenship because she wanted to become a dual citizen in Germany. That's a xenophobic thing to say.

She has no reason to renounce her citizenship. I can only assume you don't want her to have British citizenship because she'd be a German, and therefore EU citizen.

(June 24, 2016 at 4:04 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Good riddance to the pig-shagging wanker.

If there were any doubts you were British...