(June 23, 2016 at 7:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(June 23, 2016 at 3:20 pm)alpha male Wrote: Drich is right minnie. Passover can refer to the entire week, the first day, or the passover meal specifically. Similarly preparation for the passover took multiple days. When you look at all the evidence, the synoptics have Jesus dying on the day before the passover meal. The last supper wasn't the passover meal. You should know this. One of the cardinal rules of the passover was staying in the house all night. There's no way the Pharisees etc., who complained that Jesus was a lawbreaker, were violating this. There were people running all over the place that night.

If you want to be as stupid as Dripshit, I can easily oblige.

"John" (or whoever the fuck wrote that shit) was specific about the Day of Preparation.

But hey, why worry about this?  Why not talk about Matty's fucking zombies climbing out of the ground and walking around?  I should really go looking for apologists explanations of that piece of shit.  I bet there are some knee-slappers there!

There is nothing worse for the bible inerrancy crowd than the stupid shit that is in their bible.

Stay on topic.. Stay on topic bartie is on about the supposed descrepency between John's account and Marks account which if he knew anything about the culture he would know one call the day by it's name and the other simply described what happened on said day. Both are talking about the same day!

(June 23, 2016 at 7:21 pm)Spirian Wrote: Christianity is a self-destructive force. It needs no help in this regard.

Says some nobody 2000+ years AFTER it was put in place!

(June 24, 2016 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote:

(June 23, 2016 at 7:21 pm)Spirian Wrote: Christianity is a self-destructive force. It needs no help in this regard.

Says some nobody 2000+ years AFTER it was put in place!

I'm a nobody? No, sir, I am an actual man, unlike your Jesus, who is an amalgam of many pre-christianity mythical gods. Thanks for the warm welcome, BTW.

Spread by:

1) Force
2) Indoctrination (another form of force)

Stop forcing it, see what happens. Go bye bye.

(June 24, 2016 at 9:56 am)Spirian Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote:

Says some nobody 2000+ years AFTER it was put in place!

I'm a nobody? No, sir, I am an actual man, unlike your Jesus, who is an amalgam of many pre-christianity mythical gods. Thanks for the warm welcome, BTW.

Don't pay any mind to Dripshit.  No one else does.

(June 24, 2016 at 2:29 am)Minimalist Wrote: Meanwhile, while looking for something else I cam across of one Ehrman's lectures which deals with the Day of Preparation issue.

https://youtu.be/Qd7Lanms-gY

Pretty much starts around the 26:00 minute mark although I doubt that fundies have the attention span for it.  Maybe you can skip ahead?

again minnie, Passover is a week long event. Bart does not seem to know or understand this. He keeps mentioning a singlar event the Seder Feast. (which has lamb) He has confused this with any of the other passover meals. (which does not have lamb IE the feast of unleavened bread which what the lords supper in modeled on.)

This dummy is right in that the Seder meals contain lamb, but not all Passover meals were Seder meals!!! The day of perpetration he is mentioning is happening because The Seder meal falls on the Sabbath, but the day of preparation would still include what would be consider to the jews to be a 'Passover meal.' Why? because all meals during passover week augmented their diets which for this observance.

Barttie even in his expanded explanation does not acknowledge this in his argument Which means he is ignorant of this fact. a fact that allows Christ to have been killed after a passover meal (The meal of unleavened bread which contained that and wine/Lord's supper) on the day of preparation but before the Seder meal/Passover feast which included the bread, wine, bitter herbs and lamb that was slaughtered on the day before.

http://chosenpeople.com/main/holidays-an...t-passover

If you bothered to read beyond the narrow window barttie boy has you look through you will see in both mark and John evidence that they are indeed talking about the same day!!!

John 19:14
14 It was now almost noon on Preparation day of Passover week. Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your king!”

So do you see Bartie's error?

Read John 19:14 closly there in lies a clue.
Now read Mark 14:
12 It was now the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread—the day the lambs were killed for the Passover. Jesus’ followers came to him and said, “We will go and prepare everything for you to eat the Passover meal. Where do you want us to have the meal?”


The day the lambs are killed IS THE DAY OF PREPARATION you old goat! they are talking about the same DAY!!!

Your hero is a fraud, who doesn't understand the basics of the religion he is supposed talking about!!!! Which makes him ill equipt to hold lectures or even try and represent an educated position on this subject..

And what do you deaf dumb and blind fools do??? you flock behind him putting all of your mental eggs in his basket and do not bother to check ANYTHING He says... Yet you pretend to be enlightened thinkers... I guess "enlightened thinking" is a brand of indoctrination and not actually describing a process of reasoning.

Your an 'Idot' (An idiot who does not know he is an idiot)

Dripshit, let's get something straight...you really need to understand how far down you are on the shitlist.

On the one hand we have a world-renowned scholar who speaks Greek, Hebrew and Latin and who has studied these very fucking documents for his entire adult life.  On the other hand we have a fucking turd like you who is simply an idiot that believes anything and everything that any apologist asswipe tells him so you can continue to think your fucking jesus shit is true.

Apologetics is nothing more or less than the dubious art of inventing excuses for why your bullshit is true.  Most of the rest of us have seen through apologetic bullshit and assholes like you who haven't are simply not worth a fart in a hurricane.

https://youtu.be/JfzRO5Eidqs

(June 24, 2016 at 11:02 am)Drich Wrote: The day the lambs are killed IS THE DAY OF PREPARATION you old goat! they are talking about the same DAY!!!

Where in John does it say that Jesus ate the Passover meal?

Ehrman explains in the long video.... Dripshit would never get that far.

(June 21, 2016 at 9:02 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's a great video; anyone who watches/listens to this video cannot possibly have any confidence in "Biblical" Christianity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9US4OxB0Dk

So, "believers", what say you?

 Christianity is till alive and well and will be forever, he hasn't changed a thing about Christianity how could he, he doesn't even know what Christianity is about.

GC