(June 27, 2016 at 6:05 pm)dom.donald Wrote: My point was that Britain handles matters differently. Which, it could be argued, doesn't encourage integration, which, it could be argued, adds to the kinds of sentiments that were whipped up by the leave campaigners, which, it could be argued, led to the terrible decision to leave the EU.

What's the difference between handing out a leaflet and asking for an interpreter in terms of intergration? Both start with the premise that you don't speak the language and have to learn it to adapt and become a member of society.

There always will be some cashing in on anby issue to transport their own agenda. That's not a british speciality. I lay the main fault at the doorstep of Cameron and cronies, who failed to communicate what the EU is all about to their own population. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a surge in searches for EU and what it is in the day following the referendum.

(June 27, 2016 at 6:10 pm)abaris Wrote:

(June 27, 2016 at 6:05 pm)dom.donald Wrote: My point was that Britain handles matters differently. Which, it could be argued, doesn't encourage integration, which, it could be argued, adds to the kinds of sentiments that were whipped up by the leave campaigners, which, it could be argued, led to the terrible decision to leave the EU.

What's the difference between handing out a leaflet and asking for an interpreter in terms of intergration? Both start with the premise that you don't speak the language and have to learn it to adapt and become a member of society.

There always will be some cashing in on anby issue to transport their own agenda. That's not a british speciality. I lay the main fault at the doorstep of Cameron and cronies, who failed to communicate what the EU is all about to their own population. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a surge in searches for EU and what it is in the day following the referendum.

Quite a big difference, psychologically. One message is: you can get by perfectly fine without even needing a modicum of English. The other message is: you can get by if you want to speak to us in person, if you want to go through the hassle of organising an interpreter, but if you want to understand any written communication (and in Germany there is copious amounts, every single day), then you're going to have to learn some German if you want to get by. No sign posts in Turkish in Germany.

Mind you, here in NZ, many things are in Chinese and English. In fact, if you want to get by in Auckland you'll need a modicum of Chinese : Xie xie.

(June 27, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(June 27, 2016 at 5:35 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Didn't say you were, it's pretty poetic.

Are the retirement fund losses suffered by ordinary working people also poetic?

I currently stand to lose $8,400 a year because the exchange rate tanked. If it goes down much further it'll easily be over $10k.

Not going to see that money again.

(June 27, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Tiberius Wrote:

(June 27, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Are the retirement fund losses suffered by ordinary working people also poetic?

I currently stand to lose $8,400 a year because the exchange rate tanked. If it goes down much further it'll easily be over $10k.

Not going to see that money again.

I wonder how poetic that is?

Well, here's some good news. Even for the remain voters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36647948

LOL, nobody wants to be left holding the bag.

Quote:According to a YouGov poll for the Times, Home Secretary Theresa May is favoured by 31% of Conservative voters to become the next leader, against 24% for Mr Johnson.

Shit!

I'm curious... "He said a deal should be made allowing UK access to the single market and a compromise on free movement of workers." I thought being in the EU was that deal..?

(June 27, 2016 at 11:37 pm)Losty Wrote: I'm curious... "He said a deal should be made allowing UK access to the single market and a compromise on free movement of workers." I thought being in the EU was that deal..?

Nope, it's possible to retain those without actually being an EU member.

(June 27, 2016 at 11:30 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: LOL, nobody wants to be left holding the bag.

Regardless of his reasoning, it's brilliant news.