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Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:04 am
A study in JAMA in 2000 showed that modern medicine is the third leading cause of death in America, after heart disease and cancer. A new study in the British Medical Journal shows that's still the case.
http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:06 am
And your point is...?
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:10 am
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I thought God was not only the leading but the only cause of death because he likes to torture his creations for their imperfections which he had, undoubted intentionally given his and omnipotence, and omniscience, made possible.
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:16 am
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(July 8, 2016 at 8:04 am)alpha male Wrote: A study in JAMA in 2000 showed that modern medicine is the third leading cause of death in America, after heart disease and cancer.[...]
Bullsh*t. Medical error - according to that study - is the third leading cause of death in America. Modern medicine is what keeps other causes of death as low as they are.
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:19 am
I heard about this study. I think it was very problematic because of what counted as medical error and what counted as death through medical intervention. They made some very misleading choices. I'll try n find a link later.
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:23 am
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If you would have died when you were 6 months old, 9 month old, 12 years old, 47 years old, 55 years old and 64 years old, but on each occasion you were saved by modern medicine. But a medical error killed you when you were 74. Does that count as modern medicine being the cause of your death and, presumably, therefore you would be better off without modern medicine and should have prayed instead?
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:32 am
(July 8, 2016 at 8:23 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If you would have died when you were 6 months old, 9 month old, 12 years old, 47 years old, 55 years old and 64 years old, but on each occasion you were saved by modern medicine. But a medical error killed you when you were 74. Does that count as modern medicine being the cause of your death and, presumably, therefore you would be better off without modern medicine and should have prayed instead?
And nevermind that without modern medicine, life expectancy would still be in the 30ies. Due to mothers dying when giving birth and due to high infant mortality rates. One has only to leave the doorstep to see the paradise on earth without having access to modern medicine. It's called the Third world. Oh, and should I get started on plague epidemics?
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 8:33 am
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 9:00 am
Are we balancing it against the lives it has saved? I guess not. Let's all just pray and see how well that works out.
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RE: Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death
July 8, 2016 at 9:03 am
Okay alpha, don't go to the doctor then. Leaves more doctors for the rest of us.
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