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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:08 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm)Jesster Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: What are you talking about, that looks delicious! 
And for good example, would you mind briefly describing the Big Bang theory in a non-salad form? *popcorn*
Nope. I'm not making an assertion here. I'm not spending time explaining something if it's not my job to do so. So far though, most of what you've said is still nothing but abstraction. Bring it to the real world.
Do I get one given beginning axiom or do you want me to justify that too?
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:08 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 11:05 pm)Jesster Wrote: Nope. I'm not making an assertion here. I'm not spending time explaining something if it's not my job to do so. So far though, most of what you've said is still nothing but abstraction. Bring it to the real world.
Do I get one given beginning axiom or do you want me to justify that too?
Not my assertion, not my problem. Justify your own assertions. I'll let you know when I accept them or not after the salad settles. Otherwise I'll leave this to the others and stop wasting my time.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Jesster Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 11:08 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Do I get one given beginning axiom or do you want me to justify that too?
Not my assertion, not my problem. Justify your own assertions. I'll let you know when I accept them or not after the salad settles. Otherwise I'll leave this to the others and stop wasting my time. As you wish...
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 11:04 pm)Irrational Wrote: Apparently, this may be explainable by the Many Worlds Interpretation of QM if MWI is true.
I find it so bizarre that scientists would attribute a completely deterministic model (currently understanding of quantum mechanics and physical forces) on a completely random Many Worlds metaverse that burps out lucky universes like a drunken bingo machine. Illogical.
You mean counter-intuitive.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:15 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:13 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Jesster Wrote: Not my assertion, not my problem. Justify your own assertions. I'll let you know when I accept them or not after the salad settles. Otherwise I'll leave this to the others and stop wasting my time. As you wish...
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:17 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Matter, through vibration, creates space...
Evidence for that assertion?!?
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm
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(August 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: We'll have to start over before the beginning, up for a brief journey through matter, space, time and scale?
Sure. Any time you're ready.
My model begins exactly the same as the Big Bang Theory, with one single difference: The singularity is omni-centric (the center is everywhere) and infinite (occupying all space forever in all directions). This is actually consistent with the logic of the BBT singularity but inconsistent with ALL MEDIA REPRESENTATION, and this distinction is critical. We have been shone a finite singularity, in a black nothing space that is not supposed to exist. The only valid point of perspective is inside the singularity.
Follow so far?
(August 14, 2016 at 11:17 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Matter, through vibration, creates space...
Evidence for that assertion?!?
How about 3 physical experiments?
And here is vibration through matter (water) creating space and light.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:26 pm
(August 14, 2016 at 11:21 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Sure. Any time you're ready.
My model begins exactly the same as the Big Bang Theory, with one single difference: The singularity is omni-centric (the center is everywhere) and infinite (occupying all space forever in all directions). This is actually consistent with the logic of the BBT singularity but inconsistent with ALL MEDIA REPRESENTATION, and this distinction is critical. We have been shone a finite singularity, in a black nothing space that is not supposed to exist. The only valid point of perspective is inside the singularity.
Follow so far?
Yes, I follow. That's consistent with relativity and standard big bang cosmology. Please continue.
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:27 pm
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RE: What would evidence of a God even look like?
August 14, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Even if we could find evidence of "something" that we can't explain, something completely beyond the realm of science, that doesn't make it evidence FOR the existence of a god. Besides, science has a habit of finding things no one had ever even conceived of and turning around and building a physical theory around it. I think you'd have to find evidence that there is SOMEONE behind that SOMETHING we can't explain. Proving there is "something" and proving that the "something" is a god are two different things altogether.
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