(August 16, 2016 at 11:41 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Exactly like Hitler! Haha Brian.

Geez, let the blind men report on the part of the elephant they're handling at the moment, would ya?

Of course there is more than one variety of vile and Trump is his own variety.  But why not let the man describe what he sees and how he feels about it in his own way?  Besides have you noticed how often nazi comparisons come out of the mouths of right wing pundits?

(August 16, 2016 at 12:09 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(August 16, 2016 at 11:41 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Exactly like Hitler! Haha Brian.

Geez, let the blind men report on the part of the elephant they're handling at the moment, would ya?

Of course there is more than one variety of vile and Trump is his own variety.  But why not let the man describe what he sees and how he feels about it in his own way?  Besides have you noticed how often nazi comparisons come out of the mouths of right wing pundits?

Oh yeah. If someone were making Hitlery posts, I'd say that was stupid too. All comparisons to Hitler are pretty dumb.

(August 16, 2016 at 11:56 am)abaris Wrote:

(August 16, 2016 at 11:52 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yes dumbass. This isn't about a short term coup or a sudden change to fascism, but the tone itself is very dangerous long term.

Use you mind, will you? The American system has enough checks and balances built into the system to not make that possible by one person parking their ass at the Oval Office. Trump can do a lot of damage if he manages to win the elections, but not the same amount as Hitler, who, supported by a president allowing the introduction of the enabling act, gained absolute power.

Right now yes, but you might have missed the part of what I said is not about short term, but long term. And that is not a party issue. If enough politicians OF EITHER PARTY go "Hey, look at Trump, we can win using the same tactic" long term that is a very dangerous tone to set. 

And to say "never say never",  Germany was not a fascist state when Hitler decided to get involved in politics. I would not blindly assume a western pluralistic currently open society will always stay that way, human history has shown in both directions, open to closed and closed to open, things can and do change over time.

I agree we have a solid Constitution, but it cannot protect itself, humans have to do it.

Trump is not like Hitler in that Hitler was consistent. Trump is an unknown even to himself I suspect

(August 16, 2016 at 12:02 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 16, 2016 at 12:00 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sam Harris makes a lot of good points about Trump, him being like Hitler is not one of them.

The usual Harris shtick. Pull a no shit Sherlok and then resort to hyperbole.

Where exactly did Harris do this?

OP, what about what Harris said in this clip do you disagree with?

(August 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Where exactly did Harris do this?

Every time he opens his mouth in public. Probably not when he's staying within his field of expertise, but certainly in every lecture he feels like giving on atheism or politics. It's always, no shit Sherlok with a lot of Hyperbole.

(August 16, 2016 at 1:17 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Where exactly did Harris do this?

Every time he opens his mouth in public. Probably not when he's staying within his field of expertise, but certainly in every lecture he feels like giving on atheism or politics. It's always, no shit Sherlok with a lot of Hyperbole.

Care to provide an actual example of this and justify this way of describing it at length?

(August 16, 2016 at 1:19 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Care to provide an actual example of this and justify this way of describing it at length?

If you don't see it, you don't see it. I've yet to hear any Harris speech where he didn't state the obvious for anyone having two brain cells to rub together and to blow it up like it was the next big scoop and Pulitzer material. He's constantly stating the obvious.

(August 16, 2016 at 1:21 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 16, 2016 at 1:19 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Care to provide an actual example of this and justify this way of describing it at length?

If you don't see it, you don't see it. I've yet to hear any Harris speech where he didn't state the obvious for anyone having two brain cells to rub together and to blow it up like it was the next big scoop and Pulitzer material. He's constantly stating the obvious.

That's not an answer, abaris. That's an equivocation. If you don't have anything to add back up that statement of yours consider keeping your mouth shut in the future, lest you look like an imbecile or something.