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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:41 am
What makes you think that?
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:43 am
Oh man is it so steamy in here. Two guys talking about their serpents for page after page. You guys gonna get it on then, or what?
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:47 am
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(September 1, 2016 at 11:41 am)Rhythm Wrote: What makes you think that?
Because you need a sample to compare our dna with, or else how would you determine what dna came from the serpent?
To determine paternity, you need a sample from the child AND the father.
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:48 am
So how would we ever confirm that we have "serpent" DNA at all?
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:52 am
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We have plenty of samples. We have our own dna, and the dna of all other known primates. We also have the DNA of some extinct primates (some of which we find in our own dna) If the serpent was, as you contend, a separate species from human beings and not one of those other known primates....it shouldn't be too difficult to isolate an anomaly. Particularly one that codes for death...as you contend that it does. You've claimed that our hybridization brought death into the picture...so we only need to find the point at which our ancestors didn't die (which seems to have been..you know, never..what with all of our ancestors..even the un-hybridized ones, if they ever existed...being dead).
I can see that you think you've left yourself wiggle room, you really haven't. It's time to put up or shut up. Either your interpretation is correct, and we're serpent hybrids...or your interpretation is correct, and magic books narrative is demonstrably false.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:54 am
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(September 1, 2016 at 11:48 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So how would we ever confirm that we have "serpent" DNA at all?
By getting a sample from the serpent, and making a comparison... like I already stated.
Considering most people accept the more popular version of that story, don't hold your breath.
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:56 am
(September 1, 2016 at 11:54 am)Huggy74 Wrote: By getting a sample from the serpent, and making a comparison... like I already stated.
Considering most people accept the more popular version of that story, don't hold your breath.
But you already said that it's impossible to get a sample from the serpent. So verifying it is impossible.
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:56 am
EXACTLY!
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 11:57 am
(September 1, 2016 at 11:56 am)Huggy74 Wrote: EXACTLY!
So you're claim is impossible to verify. If it's impossible to verify, why would we accept it.
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RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
September 1, 2016 at 12:07 pm
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2016 at 12:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
As usual, a theist's preference for the unverifiable is palpable. But....as usual, theists aren;t very good at coming up with unfalsifiable things (it's not their fault, no one is). This idea that a hybridizing event in the history of modern homo sapiens sapiens caused us to become mortal creatures is not unverifiable, or unfalsifiable. Regardless of whether or not we could get a sample of "serpent dna" we can use our dna to find such an incredibly lethal anomaly and then make good inferences as to -this- being "serpent dna".
That it doesn't exist...that we have always been mortal, that all of our genetic ancestors are likewise mortal...that indeed all life in our genera is mortal and always has been....is a direct refutation of the claim that we are mortality inducing hybrid serpentmen. Again, if the interpretation is correct, Huggy's religion is simply not.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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