@bennyboy - my stagepiano allows to quickly change from equal temperament to various historic ones and just intonations, and playing a triad and switching from just intonation in the appropriate key to equal was indeed so striking, For a few seconds you think - wait that sounds wrong with all those beats, is that what we're usually using??? And after a few seconds, one is used to it again. Strange isn't it...

(September 8, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: You are talking about the Pythagorean Comma and the spiral of fifths, yes?

The further division of space time within a universe lead geometrically to 4 circles of fourths and a fifth (prior) torus that spirals down through them.

And lmao that you mention the hand....make a fist.....it's a prior "5th" that vertically wraps around 4 horizontal fingers.

Also found in the structure of the heart 4 chambers (that are now pair specific) are surrounded both inwardly and outwardly by a spiral muscle.

Going even deeper in the structure of DNA: 4 nucleotides that are pair specific, wrapped on either side by a spiral structure.

This is borderline schizophrenic. You are connecting ideas that should not be connected. You're also completely ignoring what I said about music-- there IS no natural order or progression to the sounds, it is our attempt to make order out of chaos which leads us to a variety of tuning systems. I've explicitly explained why you SHOULD NOT make a connection, and you've gone on to make more, even flimsier, connections.

You are not on a good path intellectually. You're about one Holy Book or one package of Kool-Aid from thinking you're the Messiah, I think.

I've asked before, but I really would like an answer for interest's sake-- have you been diagnosed for schizophrenia or anything like that?

(September 8, 2016 at 11:18 pm)bennyboy Wrote:

(September 8, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: You are talking about the Pythagorean Comma and the spiral of fifths, yes?

The further division of space time within a universe lead geometrically to 4 circles of fourths and a fifth (prior) torus that spirals down through them.

And lmao that you mention the hand....make a fist.....it's a prior "5th" that vertically wraps around 4 horizontal fingers.

Also found in the structure of the heart 4 chambers (that are now pair specific) are surrounded both inwardly and outwardly by a spiral muscle.

Going even deeper in the structure of DNA: 4 nucleotides that are pair specific, wrapped on either side by a spiral structure.

This is borderline schizophrenic. You are connecting ideas that should not be connected. You're also completely ignoring what I said about music-- there IS no natural order or progression to the sounds, it is our attempt to make order out of chaos which leads us to a variety of tuning systems. I've explicitly explained why you SHOULD NOT make a connection, and you've gone on to make more, even flimsier, connections.

You are not on a good path intellectually. You're about one Holy Book or one package of Kool-Aid from thinking you're the Messiah, I think.

I've asked before, but I really would like an answer for interest's sake-- have you been diagnosed for schizophrenia or anything like that?

I'd be very careful and hesitant about the mental health conclusions because I've met plenty of people doing exactly the same thing, it's so common the theory institute here has a whole cupboard full of that stuff that was sent to them. It's just as you say, not a good intellectual path. It's all superficial flimsy connections based on lose associations, in essence akin to the cargo cult version of theoretical physics.

My childhood was strongly marked by a schizophrenic friend of my father's. He had the highest IQ of anybody I've ever met, and he made strange and wondrous connections that blew my mind as a child. In retrospect, I don't think they were good connections, but I became fascinated with thinking outside the box. I think Arki's IQ is similarly very high, but he is seeing too many meaningful figures in the Rorschach Test called life.

Are your parents hippies by any chance? Gonna tell us now that the early Hindu and Buddhist art represents their secret knowledge of modern physics? Gonna go to "I'm not saying it's aliens, but. . . "? Where are we going with all this, bud?

Arki, you are really going overboard with the analogies and connections. You need to try and stop, and learn to examine where actual real deep connections exist, and where it's just superficial similarities. By not filtering that, you just get lost in nonsense