(September 7, 2016 at 12:50 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 12:44 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: Why do you keep bringing up that you are 12? Ya know most 12 years olds would pretend to be older. This whole age thing is getting old real fast. We don't give a shit if you are 12 or 92.

Those that have the evidence still fall into the raise with it or too weak.

Idk, because I as a 12 year old don't know why you find her annoying.
And as a 12 year old I think simple in comparison too people like you.
I didn't know if you knew so I didn't want you to overestimate me.
I'll stop if you find it annoying too.

Oh, I guess.
They say there is evidence but don't show shit.

Nobody cares.

(September 7, 2016 at 12:34 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 12:30 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: I have uneven emotions about that quote. I think it is pretty smart and pretty spot on with my own thoughts... but I can't stand Piper lol. Ugh why does someone so annoying have to be right? I know I know the chick that plays her isn't the real Piper and that while it is based on her time in jail I can't imagine that they didn't tweak it a huge amount so she probably isn't as annoying as the TV show Piper but STILL!

Anywho for your question about why bother I think there are two reasons. One being that they grew up with it and can't be bothered to change. Two is a weakness in them. They are too weak to handle reality and death without help. My love is Catholic and I know he isn't weak and I know he is more intelligent than I am. I leave it at that is how he was raised and he has just accepted it. He doesn't fight or care about religious arguments so I know he isn't a crazy one but he kind of just goes with it. It's easier to continue for some of them instead of reevaluating their entire life and way of thinking.

Piper is awesome!!!!!!
Well, we have our disagreements and I'm only 12.

But what about theists who claim too have evidence?

If you think Piper Chapman is all that, you should watch "Wentworth" (also available on Netflix). You'll soon realize just what a wuss Chapman really is.

(September 7, 2016 at 1:09 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: You have plastered it all over the site how could I not know? I just don't know if I believe it. But the thing is I don't really care enough to pursue it.

Yes they claim evidence and believe in it fully but that is nothing new for humans and applies to more than just religion. Similar with Santa. Children and told to believe and they do whole heartedly. They see 'evidence' of the milk and cookies are gone, there are hoof prints in the snow outside, and there are presents from Santa. Despite their sincere belief and evidence we know it isn't real.

Okay, fine from now on I won't speak my age since... Yeah, it's annoying.

But I explain, they just deny it.

(September 7, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 12:50 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Idk, because I as a 12 year old don't know why you find her annoying.
And as a 12 year old I think simple in comparison too people like you.
I didn't know if you knew so I didn't want you to overestimate me.
I'll stop if you find it annoying too.

Oh, I guess.
They say there is evidence but don't show shit.

Nobody cares.

About What?

Nvm, I'm stupid in general.
Forget it.

If theists admit that there is no real evidence in favor of their religion but follow it anyway, I can actually respect that. Some people need a reason to keep going, and their lives are in such a state that they can't get that reason in their everyday activities. So they like to think there is a God, and that he cares, then I respect it. I just hate when they do all the bullshit mental gymnastics to try to prove what they believe.

(September 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aegon Wrote: If theists admit that there is no real evidence in favor of their religion but follow it anyway, I can actually respect that. Some people need a reason to keep going, and their lives are in such a state that they can't get that reason in their everyday activities. So they like to think there is a God, and that he cares, then I respect it. I just hate when they do all the bullshit mental gymnastics to try to prove what they believe.

It's fine if its what they just plain believe for hope but if they can look through it but use seduo-science to "prove" things than I don't really know what to do.

(September 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aegon Wrote: If theists admit that there is no real evidence in favor of their religion but follow it anyway, I can actually respect that. Some people need a reason to keep going, and their lives are in such a state that they can't get that reason in their everyday activities. So they like to think there is a God, and that he cares, then I respect it. I just hate when they do all the bullshit mental gymnastics to try to prove what they believe.

I tend to agree with this. Believe any damn thing you want. That's your right. But don't expect to be taken seriously. That's not a right; that's earned.

(September 7, 2016 at 2:37 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 12:34 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Piper is awesome!!!!!!
Well, we have our disagreements and I'm only 12.

But what about theists who claim too have evidence?

If you think Piper Chapman is all that, you should watch "Wentworth" (also available on Netflix). You'll soon realize just what a wuss Chapman really is.

I never said she's hard core. Just a good actor.

(September 7, 2016 at 12:08 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Why does god let us die for nothing?

Why do you say we die for nothing, and if we do, how does this make a case for the non-existence of God?

Quote:Why does god send people to hell to burn without rehabilitation?

I don't beleive the bible teaches this, but if it is true, how does this make a case for the non-existence of God?

Quote:Why does god make life shitty enough for us to kill ourselves (unrelated to quote)?

I don't think life is shitty enough to kill ourselves, but if it is, how does this make a case for the non-existence of God?

Quote:This quote makes me think, why do people bother with god?
We should speak the words out loud that...

We bother with God because we believe that he has reveled himself to us and is present with us. I don't think think that in order for God to exist life has to be perfect. "There is suffering, therefore there is no God" makes no sense to me.
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